Karma...

[fat_spartan]

Do you believe in karma? what goes around comes around?

I deeply believe that you should treat your wife/Girlfriend, With respect, Because men forget that one day they will have a daughter/niece/and they *might *have a sister. or a girl cousin they class as one.

For example, Back in the day when my boyfriend's brother got married to his girlfriend, she used to text my boyfriend *all the time. *99% Of the time it was absoloute crap.

Like -: What car shall i get? What phone shall i get? Do you wanna go shopping with me? ETC! ... The last thing did it for me.... ''can you get my baby some nappies?''

(Before you all attack me for that last one, Her husband was AT home, Being a lazy pig that he is!!)

So i made a thread ages ago saying that my potential BIL swore at me for texting him asking him where his brother was. I mean he is such a thick moron words cant describe it... His girlfriend basically ran away from home to marry him... Hell her parents didnt even come to the wedding, Yet IM the kanjari?! And i have no morals or respect. I would never ever ever do that to my parents. He obviously has a deep complex.

Now back to the main topic... So yesterday i was going thru facebook and found my boyfriend's niece.... She has over 300 guys on her facebook and shes 14 years old. I told my boyfriend he said yeah they are her friends.... which i replied Im sorry which 14 year old has 20+year olds as friends? * *He then replied back saying, **Dont talk about my family.** It then hit me ... Its karma, His brother had the cheek to swear at me and try to give me a bad name, when his OWN neice is talking to loads of guys.

Anyway he has a daughter and one on the way very soon... I in no way wish them any harm or anything, But men should learn not to run their mouths about other girls that they have no idea about.. Because you never know when karma wil hit you in the arse!!!!!!!

Your example looks more like someone having the same fault (indirectly) they criticize others for rather than this happening because of the fact that he criticized you. As for getting what you deserve, yes I believe in that; if not in this world, then in the next for sure.

[Nutwer]

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^ Agree with Shak.

[firenze]

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it's F-d up to begin with,

this !

[princess20]

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a story to share

one of my neighbour (who was divorced) had a fight with another neighbour over kids...the 2nd neighbour was the one who started and she went to far and said stuff like...tumari to koi izzat he nahi kyunki tum talaq shuda ho...tum to achi aurat nahi thi is liye tumara talaq ho gaya...etc...after 1 year ..the 2nd neighbour had fight with husband and husband said talaaq to her 3 times....they were separate for a while and she went to back to husband after 3 months saying that she was pregnant that time when her husband said talaq aur jab pregnant ho to talaq nahi hota

well wat goes around comes around..

[soundarya]

@redvelvet

And there are other people…as mentioned by the wise Mistral…who will suffer karma and will never reflect upoon how the hurt others previously.

That wasn’t said by Mistral, I said that.

[redvelvet]

@soundarya

That wasn’t said by Mistral, I said that.

In all honesty Soundi, I wasn’t trying to omit you. I know that many members such as yourself had similar thoughts about the topic of karma. It’s hard for me to remember exactly what everyone had posted, however in my last post in THIS thread…(if you read at the top) I did mention that many posters discussed similar views. That was my attempt of giving credit to others.

Mistral and I were talking about the issue of karma via PM and she also made the point that some people never realize what past mistakes they made are causing karma to slap them in their faces. Since the conversation also took place outside of the tread…maybe that’s why it stuck out in my mind more.

You know I enjoy your posts and agree with many of your points…and have even quoted them to show that I support your awesome ideas. I hope there are no hard feelings

[soundarya]

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^ Oh ok, makes sense

[Guac]

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Yes I believe what goes around comes around....................my opinion from personal experience ................the tables have turned and man o man does it feel good!!!!!!!!!!!

[diwana]

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Karma itself is nothing.

If something bad happens to other after something bad was done by other to you. You call it 'Karma'. You feel good about it!

So what about something bad happpened to you in the first place? Is that a 'Karma' too?

[redvelvet]

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^People become lax in everyday colloquial language. One might say that you took "forever" in coming home when you might have only been 5 minutes late. Similarly, karma is a short word....it's easier to say than saying the 5 words "What goes around comes around" all the time. It's loosely used....especially by those who don't follow the religion (Hinduism, etc) that deals with Karma in more detail.

Generalizing karma to the point that you apply it to every negative situation isn't reasonable. And I don't think that's what people here are trying to do. Nobody is saying "Oops I broke a nail.......MAN that must be karma!" Bad things can happen for a variety of reasons. Maybe a particular hardship is the result of some oversight or carelessness on your part. For example....you're drunk....or drowsy from medication....and you decide to get behind the wheel. You end up getting into an accident where thankfully nobody is killed but you end up with body pains afterward and expenses, etc. The hardship could even be a test from Allah. And sometimes it could be a punishment (or what is loosely termed as karma).

I think most people (not all of them) can kind of tell if life is putting them in place by reflecting over what they did in the past. I know that sometimes I might realize "Oops...I hurt someone in a similar manner...and now the same is happening to me." We try to connect current experiences with similar experiences in the past.....and by jogging our memory....we may realize where we went wrong.

[diamond321]

^LOL. My ideas are not novel. They've been mentioned by others in this thread and in other similar threads, though each person's wording may be different.

To answer your question....(I don't have an exact answer to this question and to many questions)

It could depend upon your beliefs. I've heard that scores will be settled on the Day of the judgement. I've even heard that there will a court to settle issues. Perhaps if you don't witness the person getting their "just desserts" in this world........maybe you'll see it in the next world. If you believe in a Day of Judgment....where justice will be done...perhaps this view can bring some peace.

*There's the saying that the best revenge is to lead a happy life. Sure, it's easier said than done. But spending every waking minute of your life in the hope that the offender is being punished...........not only does the negativity consume you.......it's unhealthy (stress related illnessess)............and in such waiting.......you can end up not living your own life to the fullest. Those moments that you wasted wishshing that XYZ is leading a miserable life.....could have been spend doing something positive for yourself. So, in a way, you're making your own life shorter. You can wait and there's a chance that you may not see the just desserts....or you can try to learn from a negative situation and try to move forward with your life. *

*Your "gain" may not necessarily be that person's misery. Your "gain" could be strength, development of character, some lesson you learned. What you might have perceived as a "loss" could actually open the door or pave the way toward a more positive opportunity in the future. Maybe your "gain" could be better than another person's suffering. * I dunno. I sway back and forth. There are a few people I would like to see not only get their just desserts but also come to the realization and feel shame for their offenses. But then I remind myself....that I'm only wasting minutes off my life and making it shorter for people who I don't owe anything to....and who aren't worth it.

Excellently written !

I also got very bitter and negative after what happened in my life. But the truth is that the best revenge is to lead a happy life. I firmly believe now that any person who has made your miserable or has hurt you does not deserve your time and attention. Yes its easier said than done. But if you keep on repeating in your mind the wrong doings done to you it will only make you more miserable and the moments of life you could have spend happily and in peace would be ruined by your negative thoughts. But at the end of the day we all are human beings past can not be forgotten so easily & completely esp if you were the victim but we can try to forget believe me with every try you make things only get better. Leave everything in Allah's hands because we are mortals with limited knowledge but He has unlimited knowledge and power and the way He can do justice on one can ! Allah doesn't have a time frame it can take years also and it can take day or as a matter of fact minutes also. It's His decision ,once we give things in His hands we should just do sabar and have faith one his justice.

[diwana]

^People become lax in everyday colloquial language. One might say that you took "forever" in coming home when you might have only been 5 minutes late. Similarly, karma is a short word....it's easier to say than saying the 5 words "What goes around comes around" all the time. It's loosely used....especially by those who don't follow the religion (Hinduism, etc) that deals with Karma in more detail.

Generalizing karma to the point that you apply it to every negative situation isn't reasonable. And I don't think that's what people here are trying to do. Nobody is saying "Oops I broke a nail.......MAN that must be karma!" Bad things can happen for a variety of reasons. Maybe a particular hardship is the result of some oversight or carelessness on your part. For example....you're drunk....or drowsy from medication....and you decide to get behind the wheel. You end up getting into an accident where thankfully nobody is killed but you end up with body pains afterward and expenses, etc. The hardship could even be a test from Allah. And sometimes it could be a punishment (or what is loosely termed as karma).

I think most people (not all of them) can kind of tell if life is putting them in place by reflecting over what they did in the past. I know that sometimes I might realize "Oops...I hurt someone in a similar manner...and now the same is happening to me." We try to connect current experiences with similar experiences in the past.....and by jogging our memory....we may realize where we went wrong.

What I tried to point out that 'karma' is a forward concept. More of a cycle for some. And yes, it does not generally mean petty things.

It soothes the person in bad times. Just like hoping to get something better in future.

The example you gave is not considered 'karma' in its real sense. If you also meant that then we are in agreement.

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Should we believe on 'karma'. Well the answer is no. Do the right thing, be proactive, and hope for the best.

Don't just sit there and wait for 'karma' to happen.

[Sara516]

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Why the hell do you want to associate yourself with such a family?

[Moodie_Foodie]

^LOL. My ideas are not novel. They've been mentioned by others in this thread and in other similar threads, though each person's wording may be different.

To answer your question....(I don't have an exact answer to this question and to many questions)

It could depend upon your beliefs. I've heard that scores will be settled on the Day of the judgement. I've even heard that there will a court to settle issues. Perhaps if you don't witness the person getting their "just desserts" in this world........maybe you'll see it in the next world. If you believe in a Day of Judgment....where justice will be done...perhaps this view can bring some peace.

There's the saying that the best revenge is to lead a happy life. Sure, it's easier said than done. But spending every waking minute of your life in the hope that the offender is being punished...........not only does the negativity consume you.......it's unhealthy (stress related illnessess)............and in such waiting.......you can end up not living your own life to the fullest. Those moments that you wasted wishshing that XYZ is leading a miserable life.....could have been spend doing something positive for yourself. So, in a way, you're making your own life shorter. You can wait and there's a chance that you may not see the just desserts....or you can try to learn from a negative situation and try to move forward with your life.

Your "gain" may not necessarily be that person's misery. Your "gain" could be strength, development of character, some lesson you learned. What you might have perceived as a "loss" could actually open the door or pave the way toward a more positive opportunity in the future. Maybe your "gain" could be better than another person's suffering.

I dunno. I sway back and forth. There are a few people I would like to see not only get their just desserts but also come to the realization and feel shame for their offenses. But then I remind myself....that I'm only wasting minutes off my life and making it shorter for people who I don't owe anything to....and who aren't worth it.

Beautifully said RV!!

I believe in Karma and we reap what we sow. However karma is not responsible for all the worldly woes, sometimes it's fate which deals us the unfavorable hand.

[Puchi_Kuchi]

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Not exactly Karma, but yeah islamic perspective is you pay for your sins and if you do good yes you will get good...

for example beauty if you didn't have a boyfriend and had patience and trust in Allah and got married in the correct and decent manner then you wouldn't have such issues to be honest. You would get more respect from your in laws if you didn't 'go out' with the guy so much before you went into their family. Keep the haya and decency, choose a partner the correct way in the eyes of Allah and then you know that you have done everything correct from yourside.

Then if anything goes wrong start blaming people, if we don't have barakah and sakoon in haraam relationships who are we to complain when those relationships don't even have a basis or a real name in the first place?! Then we wonder what we have done wrong and why people mistreat us and disrespect us? Our own respect, privacy and honour is in our own hands. Sorry to sound patronising, just my 2 cents.

[CE]

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So having Daughters is a result of bad Karma?

[jalpari90]

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^Not that but spoiled daughters could be.

[cricketplaya]

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I believe karma is man made.

[Amna_Najam]

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BarbieCue is right

[Zapatista]

I believe in physics.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Karma is just a designer.

What action caused your parents to get robbed in Pak?

I personally would say shiet happens, Karma doesn't.