Karachi stock market crashes 1300 points

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Amendments were suggested by 'opposition', of which PTI is a part of. And again, proposed amendments were shot down without a debate. Please check /watch assembly proceedings. They are all on record. Last year, they had a 2 week period between budget speech and fiance bill approval. Less than a week was given for 'debate' in a house of 342. This year, there was a 3 week period, and again, no more than a week.

I said this before...will say it again. Golden words from Nawaz Sharif in a recent speech. "We dont have a majority in Senate, hence, we will not pass any legislation in the parliament until we do". Does this give you an insight into their monarchist mindset? In light of these words, do you think that any debate ever matters in the parliament? Ishaq Dar attended no more than 1 or 2 sessions of the finance bill debate. Who is the opposition/PTI going to address its concerns to in his absence?

Re: Karachi stock market crashes 1300 points

Amendments were suggested by 'opposition', of which PTI is a part of. And again, proposed amendments were shot down without a debate. Please check /watch assembly proceedings. They are all on record. Last year, they had a 2 week period between budget speech and fiance bill approval. Less than a week was given for 'debate' in a house of 342. This year, there was a 3 week period, and again, no more than a week.

I said this before...will say it again. Golden words from Nawaz Sharif in a recent speech. "We dont have a majority in Senate, hence, we will not pass any legislation in the parliament until we do". Does this give you an insight into their monarchist mindset? In light of these words, do you think that any debate ever matters in the parliament? Ishaq Dar attended no more than 1 or 2 sessions of the finance bill debate. Who is the opposition/PTI going to address its concerns to in his absence?

PS: PTI has actively participated in debates on major issues. PTI presented 2 bills for electoral reforms. Both were shot down. Only one was accepted 2 days before the long march...reforms committee.

Re: Karachi stock market crashes 1300 points

Amendments were suggested by 'opposition', of which PTI is a part of. And again, proposed amendments were shot down without a debate. Please check /watch assembly proceedings. They are all on record. Last year, they had a 2 week period between budget speech and fiance bill approval. Less than a week was given for 'debate' in a house of 342. This year, there was a 3 week period, and again, no more than a week.

I said this before...will say it again. Golden words from Nawaz Sharif in a recent speech. "We dont have a majority in Senate, hence, we will not pass any legislation in the parliament until we do". Does this give you an insight into their monarchist mindset? In light of these words, do you think that any debate ever matters in the parliament? Ishaq Dar attended no more than 1 or 2 sessions of the finance bill debate. Who is the opposition/PTI going to address its concerns to in his absence?

PS: PTI has actively participated in debates on major issues. PTI presented 2 bills for electoral reforms. Both were shot down. Only one was accepted 2 days before the long march...reforms committee.

Re: Karachi stock market crashes 1300 points

Amendments were suggested by 'opposition', of which PTI is a part of. And again, proposed amendments were shot down without a debate. Please check /watch assembly proceedings. They are all on record. Last year, they had a 2 week period between budget speech and fiance bill approval. Less than a week was given for 'debate' in a house of 342. This year, there was a 3 week period, and again, no more than a week.

I said this before...will say it again. Golden words from Nawaz Sharif in a recent speech. "We dont have a majority in Senate, hence, we will not pass any legislation in the parliament until we do". Does this give you an insight into their monarchist mindset? In light of these words, do you think that any debate ever matters in the parliament? Ishaq Dar attended no more than 1 or 2 sessions of the finance bill debate. Who is the opposition/PTI going to address its concerns to in his absence?

PS: PTI has actively participated in debates on major issues. PTI presented 2 bills for electoral reforms. Both were shot down. Only one was accepted 2 days before the long march...reforms committee.

Re: Karachi stock market crashes 1300 points

Amendments were suggested by 'opposition', of which PTI is a part of. And again, proposed amendments were shot down without a debate. Please check /watch assembly proceedings. They are all on record. Last year, they had a 2 week period between budget speech and fiance bill approval. Less than a week was given for 'debate' in a house of 342. This year, there was a 3 week period, and again, no more than a week.

I said this before...will say it again. Golden words from Nawaz Sharif in a recent speech. "We dont have a majority in Senate, hence, we will not pass any legislation in the parliament until we do". Does this give you an insight into their monarchist mindset? In light of these words, do you think that any debate ever matters in the parliament? Ishaq Dar attended no more than 1 or 2 sessions of the finance bill debate. Who is the opposition/PTI going to address its concerns to in his absence?

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link to document from PTI’s amendment proposal?

All the amendment proposals were forwarded by PPP. Thats what I heard on Media.

This sounds correct, considering PTI’s behavior on every issue ‘Ja main nahin khail raha’ :naraz:

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aor abhi to bay ghairat khan ney sara mulk band karna hay :cobra:

KARACHI: Pakistan’s beleaguered rupee, after a brief period of relative stability, hit a six-month low against the US dollar as country’s political crisis lingers on.

In early Monday trade, the rupee lost 50 paisas against the greenback to trade at 102.15 to a dollar in the official interbank market.

The rupee has been relatively stable at 98/99 to a dollar before the start of long marches in Islamabad but political instability has increased dollar demand as investors are uncertain about economic prospects. – Samaa

Rupee hits six-month low

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err…i thought the GDP growth figures were real? Shouldnt rupee have remained stable due to the ‘GDP growth rate increasing’ as claimed by Ishaq Dar?

Another query. Dollar was sub 100 for a long time. Crude oil prices dropped almost 15% in the international market. Our imports are so much cheaper now, and we are supposedly even exporting crude now. Any idea how much the prices at the pump, and IPPs dropped by?

And before you cast blame on the long march, keep in mind that according to PMLN, the long march consists of no more than a few thousand people, confined to a small space in Islamabad. In a realistic scenario, it shouldnt have any impact on a country of 190 million. So what gives?

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so you want to say that a country with political turmoil for more than two weeks, where workers can't attend offices in various parts, has a positive impact on economy? Please enlighten us why this dollar devaluation didn't happen just before dharnas and why its declining rapidly after 14th August? Who is the player?

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That along with asking people to send remittances through illegal means, withdrawing money from banks, not paying taxes & crashing economy so IK could be the PM. I wonder if IK/PTI is well wisher of Pakistan or working with India and Taliban to destroy Pakistan's economy & turned into Somalia or Afghanistan.

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Where exactly are any workers being kept from earning their livelihood by the azadi march? please enlighten. And please dont cite the containers, because they were not put there by PTI or PAT. These sit-ins are not being held by danda and bandooq bardar MQMers or PMLNers where people/govt employees are forced to participate.

As for dollar, like I said before, rupees value was not good becasue of the GDP growth rate...it was good becasue of the IMF tranches...in other words, artificial. Dont worry, finance minister has stated that once the next tranche comes in, it will prop back up. So we can enjoy fake numbers while these tranches last.

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when Supreme Court of Pakistan became, Supreme Court of Shalwar qameez... you can understand how people outside Pakistan will be looking at economic security.

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Setback to the economy: Islamabad ‘carnival’ — an expensive exercise - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Setback to the economy: Islamabad ‘carnival’ — an expensive exercise
By Afshan Subohi
Updated about 2 hours ago

THE high-pitched political drama has kept the nation on tenterhooks. The round-the-clock TV and social media coverage has brought the camping episode of the PTI and PAT protesters under public scrutiny like never before.

The protest — which sometimes looks like a carnival, complete with music and fun activities — appears to be an expensive exercise.

So far, the short-term financial cost on account of the political flux is projected to be Rs800bn — Rs300bn in capital market and Rs500bn because of the rupee’s depreciation (which increases the debt volume and leads to shortfall in trade and investment).

The spending on protests so far is projected to be Rs500m. The economic cost in terms of a general business slowdown and the affect on future investment prospects are said to be huge and difficult to quantify.

There is no indication so far of the public responding to the call of civil disobedience. According to some analysts, it did give currency to an idea that can widen the wedge between the government and the people.

“All other deficits [current account, trade] are compounded by the trust deficit. The low credibility of the government is reflected in the low [under 10pc] tax-to-GDP ratio,” commented one expert.

“The damage to the economy and Pakistan’s image is irreparable. What we built over a year, have been lost in days,” Commerce Minister Khurram Dastagir Khan said, while referring to the country’s economic credibility abroad. He was talking to Dawn over phone from Islamabad, and did not sound too optimistic over the resolution of the crisis any time soon.

Khan mentioned recent decisions by Moody’s and other risk assessment companies, which improved the sovereign rating from negative to positive. “Economic consolidation is intractably linked to democratic consolidation in the country,” the federal minister stressed.

He admitted that a serious effort to assess the cost of the protest has not been undertaken so far, but promised to create a cell in his ministry to start work on the subject. “Till we conduct a detailed exercise, it is difficult for me to quantify the loss to the economy.”

Some business houses of Punjab, however, insist that the movement poses no danger to the democratic order and aims to improve the contents of democracy. Bitterly critical of Nawaz Sharif and his coterie, they argue that the Sharif brothers needed a jolt to become receptive and accommodating.

“When the parliament becomes pliant, a display of street power to wake up the leadership from its slumber becomes necessary. The political class needs to stop scaring the nation of a ‘military takeover’,” a top tycoon asserted.

“All investments in the pipeline will be halted at least for the next six months as investors wait and weigh their options all over again,” a former OICCI president commented.

“We are long-term positive, but there is little adverse impact in the short-term, as some overseas business visitors have cancelled their travel plans to the country,” said Humayun Bashir, former president of the American Business Council of Pakistan.

A senior economist who has served in key positions in the country expressed frustration over the ‘short-sightedness’ of the PTI and PAT leaderships. “There will be an impact on the level of debt and on the quantum of debt servicing, tax-to-GDP ratio and public borrowing, besides stagnation in export earnings and a fall in technology transfer. The challenges are too big, and the opportunistic elements are ready to throw the baby with the bathwater,” he said.

“If the current crisis is a reflection of the fissures among the civilian elite of Punjab, it is a phenomenon worth exploring,” an enlightened member of the Pakistan Peoples Party’s economic team pondered.

“It is pleasantly surprising how all political parties closed their ranks to resist any attempt to derail the system. The organised segments of the civil society, the lawyers and journalist bodies have come out openly in the support of parliament. We wish and hope that better sense prevails and the issues are resolved on the negotiating table, and not on blood-stained streets,” he said.

“The fear of instability dampens investment prospects. While investors can discount other shortcomings, uncertainty in a country where the institutional base is weak is struck out of the possible location list,” said a business leader.

Media reports have so far not focused on the cost of the rallies. In 2007, a newspaper report estimated Rs300m as the cost of Benazir Bhutto’s arrival rally on October 18.

Currently in Islamabad, the average minimum cost works out at Rs500 per protestor per day. This includes everything from food to transport to other logistics such as light, sound system, cranes, flags and banners, chairs, etc. About 800 buses and wagons, at an average rent of Rs10,000 a day, are said to be parked in Islamabad since the arrival of the two marches on August 15.

According to one estimate, about 200 degs of food of Rs5,000 each are supplied thrice a day at the venue. There are two cranes available to move the containers. A few dozen trucks are mounted with generators and fitted with floodlights. Two containers with 24 mobile toilets move with the protestors. There are some AC-fitted luxury containers for the leaders, and some more to serve as a stage.

According to avaiilable information, all five and four star hotels are booked to capacity in the capital. Vendors selling snacks and soft drinks near the venue of the protests are said to be doing roaring business.

When approached PAT and PTI leaders said private and party resources were pooled to cover the expenses.

Conservative estimates put spending by the two parties occupying the D Block at Rs20m a day. In two weeks since the start of the march, the parties and workers are believed to have collectively spent nothing less than Rs500m.

Published in Dawn, Economic & Business, August 25th, 2014

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BTW, Saturday I visited Urdu Bazar and there were many people asking for syllabus books. The shop keeper said ‘jab dharne khatam honge, tab hi books available hongi’. Not to mention, summer vacation in government schools of Islamabad extended third time till September 1, 2014.

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u is write (u ney theek kaha)
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