Karachi Airport Shootings

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It's a bit of a stretch to think that really matters. The politicians and the military simply do not react to public will. It's a nice sentiment...a bit childish though. And it passes the buck. So the fact that millions of Pakistanis are not out in the streets is because the religious leaders are not giving the nod for such a sentiment? Really? That's what's stopping people?

There is no such culture in Pakistan. There is SO much more than a simple and rather modest terrorist attack that goes in in Pakistan, much by elected officials no less, that should have invoked spasms of protest among the Pakistani masses long ago...just never happens.

I think everyone has their small circle of concern, and anything that doesn't fall within it, they're all too content with letting the status quo be. That's a hallmark of Pakistani political culture, and proclamations or allusions to the contrary, I think the religious leadership are influenced more by this culture than they have influence over it.

But by all means, let's point out at a select group and put a whack load of blame on them...even though they're not really involved. Or have tenuous ability to influence.

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Anyways, if you do not consider the 'mazhab ke thekedaar' in Pakistan as ulema, I would not use that word. I am talking about the talking beards that cry hoarse over drone attacks and Israel's aggression against Palestinians and bring out large processions over 'abduction' of sister aafia and so forth but keep mum when Pakistanis die.
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But they don't cry themselves hoarse. They do keep bringing it up. Sure. Over and over again, perhaps. Usually to build sympathy for a political stance they have. And, to be fair, that's all a lot of people focus on when they do speak, so it's very well a matter of perspective. But...nothing happens. Drone strikes continued. Aafia is locked up. And yet you expect them speaking up to stop the TTP?

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What we can do is speak to our own people to have them hold back their anger. That's what this terrorism is all about. It's about anger against the West. Instead of competing in the international market by our wit and talent, we have crazies trying to take people out using The Quran coupled with the Gun. Which doesn't make sense, because that's not even religiously jaahiz.

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Imagine a world where we stop trying to get more land, we start to treat people nicely, we start to become honest, we appoint the best people to lead us and not the people that will help us out when we have been dodgy. Imagine not harming others and not stealing or begging or homelessness or poverty ... Imagine a world with strong focus on Allah (SWT) and care for the wildlife.

In such a world terrorism could not exist ... We need to change ourselves to change our predicament - the more we try to subdue others our situation will not change.

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^ quite a lennonistic socialist agenda with a tinge of religion ...

... imagine there is no country

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Here is a ‘moderate’ mullah STILL wanting to talk to Taliban. Even after that terrorism.
As I said, there is little distinction between a moderate and an extremist of that ideology.

One common thing about these munafiqeen is that they all condemn Taliban terrorism on one hand but still won’t agree to any action for the crimes they have committed.

Sami urges govt to pursue talks with Taliban again - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Speaking at a press conference here, he urged the government of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to pursue peace talks with the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), saying that the country was currently in a state of war.

“(Military) operation is not the solution to the issue … were you expecting that Taliban will present sweets to you?” he said.

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You were trying to prove that some moderate mullahs belonging to Taliban ideology do condemn terrorism.
but actually Saeed put blame on India instead of Taliban. So his condemnation actually doesn't count.

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Why are you preaching me? You need to go preach among Taliban apologists. It is those munafiqeen mullahs who continue to spread intolerance and make excuses for violence against Muslims.

These so called moderates continue to put blame of terrorism on everyone except their intolerant munafiq brothers. India, Israel, Amreeka. It is they who create separatism by calling others mushrik, kafir and what not. The extremism these intolerant moderates espouse is the main cause of this violence.

These moderates say that their madrasahs do not indulge in terrorism. But Go to their madrasahs and see what kind of hatred is being taught there. The intolerance against other Muslims is the main cause of some of their pupils becoming terrorists.

But realizing this root cause of problem is probably too much to ask for. So keep denying the fact that there is certain ideology which is built upon hatred and intolerance, and whose moderates have little distinction from its extremists.

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Khoji, sonay dou yaar, tang na karo....

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I don't deny it ... I see in those extreme madrasas no more anger than in the post that you have just written ...

It is not good to love those who are good to you, that is merely fairness, but to show love to those who are bad to you - that is the hallmark of goodness.

Perhaps I speak to you and speak to others also ... perhaps I remind myself and expect you to remind me everyday to be better ... What else shall we ask from one another ... but a kind word and advice to help us out ... We cannot see our own faces ... we rely on others to show us how to improve ourselves ... you throw that back at me as if I have done something wrong, but alas may be I have ... so I take it back ... khoji remain as you are ...