Reason for that could be lack of general awareness. I asked some veterans who had returned from Afghanistan to name any two countries that border it, they couldn’t. I can bet most cant even find the continent on map where Afghanistan is, let alone know anything about the ideology.
Unstable Afghanistan is no good for pak
what a enduring and unlucky nation which will be never left alone by others
You and I can point out where Afghanistan is on a map. Neither of us will fight aside the Taliban. Even Pakistani Prince for all his gung ho fire and smoke rhetoric wouldnt. It is not awareness haha. None of us are dumb enough to drink the koolaid even if we spout it. But there are plenty of simpletons who will. And some of them will even come back alive and try to implement their visions back in their home towns.
I agree with you that awareness alone is not sufficient to join the fight with Taliban, but awareness is still an essential first step. Picking up a fight with the best equipped military powers is indeed not for the “smart” ones, nor for the fainthearted. Allama Iqbal best describes the people who do in the following stanza:
[urdu]فطرت کے مقاصد کي کرتا ہے نگہباني
يا بندہ صحرائي يا مرد کہستاني[/urdu]
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Taliban captures key cities Herat and Ghazni, leaving Kabul increasingly isolated
By Ivana Kottasová, Tim Lister, Nick Paton Walsh, Clarissa Ward, Hannah Ritchie and Barbara Starr, CNN
Updated 3:25 PM EDT, Thu August 12, 2021
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(CNN)Twelve provincial Afghanistan capitals are now under Taliban control after the militant group captured strategic cities on Thursday, leaving the Afghan capital of Kabul increasingly beleaguered and cut off from the rest of the country.
The city of Herat, Afghanistan’s third-largest city and a major urban center in western Afghanistan, fell to the Taliban on Thursday evening local time, with the group taking control of the governor’s office and Herat police headquarters, according to Afghan officials.
Qala-I-Naw city, the provincial capital of the northwest Badghis province also fell to the militant group on Thursday evening, a Badghis provincial council member confirmed to CNN on Thursday. Afghan forces in the area have fled to the local army base, the only nearby location that has not fallen to the Taliban yet, the council member told CNN.
Earlier in the day, the city of Ghazni, a key provincial capital on the road to Kabul, also fell to the militant group after “long and intense fighting,” according to Nasir Ahmad Faqiri, head of Ghazni provincial council.
A Taliban spokesman tweeted Thursday that the city had been seized, including the governor’s office, police headquarters and prison. CNN cannot independently verify the Taliban’s claims.
Afghan security forces arrested Dawood Laghmani, the governor of Ghazni province, hours after the Taliban took the city, a spokesman for the Afghan interior ministry told journalists.
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Fear and resentment reign in Afghanistan as the Taliban overruns more cities
Laghmani was detained, along with his deputy and chief of staff, in Maidan Wardak, the province that lies between Kabul and Ghazni, the spokesman added.
The governor had surrendered to the Taliban, Faqiri, the provincial council head, confirmed to CNN.
Ghazni lies around 93 miles (150 kilometers) south of Kabul, on a major highway connecting the capital with Kandahar, Afghanistan’s second largest city.
More than a third of the country’s 34 provinces have now fallen to the Taliban.
Kandahar, which lies in the south of the country,has been besieged by the Taliban for weeks, and the group’s spokesperson claimed on Wednesday that they had taken control of its prison. The Taliban claimed they had freed 1,000 inmates and distributed a video apparently showing them walking outside the jail.
Gul Ahmad Kamin, a Kandahari member of parliament, told CNN Taliban fighters have been able to break through the frontline into Kandahar and were engaging in sporadic confrontation with government forces inside the city.
Kamin also confirmed that a wedding hall in Kandahar which was the frontline position for Afghan forces is now under the Taliban control. The wedding hall, visited by CNN just days ago, is about 600 meters away from the prison.
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Taliban fighters are shown patrolling the city of Ghazni on Thursday.
With the capture of Ghazni, the Taliban is now in control of key locations both to the north and south of Kabul. Their earlier capture of areas of the Baghlan province, which lies to the north of Kabul, raised alarms among US officials because the location is considered essential for the defense of the capital, according to a Biden administration official.
A senior administration official familiar with one US intelligence assessment said Kabul could be isolated by the Taliban in the next 30 to 60 days, increasing the potential that the Afghan capital could fall under the control of the militant group.
Another assessment puts the potential collapse within 90 days, according to another US official. Other officials have warned that there are multiple assessments with differing timelines.
The US is considering relocating its embassy to the Kabul airport amid the deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan, a US official, Western diplomatic source and another source familiar with the situation told CNN. The US is also expected to draw down some personnel from its diplomatic outpost in the Afghan capital, the US and Western source said.
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US Embassy in Kabul again urges Americans to leave Afghanistan ‘immediately’
The US official said options are being weighed in real time, but cautioned that the situation remains fluid. They indicated that decisions are likely to evolve in the days and weeks ahead given the rapidly changing situation on the ground.
Earlier Thursday, the US embassy in Kabul urged US citizens again to depart Afghanistan immediately. About 3,000 US troops will go into Afghanistan to assist with any departure of US diplomats and any possible evacuations, a US defense official told CNN on Thursday.
State Department spokesperson Ned Price also said on Thursday that the US military will assist with getting US diplomats out of Afghanistan as the embassy reduces the number of personnel it has on the ground. Price stressed that the embassy “remains open in its current location” and continues its diplomatic work, however he would not say if it will remain in that location.
All set to make Kandahar once again the new capital of Afghanistan
The news stories in MSM about cities captured by Taliban are missing that houses of civilians are still intact, although shops are closed but they are all intact, infrastructure such as grid stations, bridges and dams are still intact. There has been no looting or destruction of public property, no places of worship damaged, no clinics or hospitals or ambulances have been damaged, municipal workers, police and traffic wardens are still showing up for work. Public transport is still running, food and medicine supplies are largely unaffected. Also no one has entered any embassy, even Indian embassies are left alone. And most importantly there is no civil war. Now compare that to the capture of towns and cities by US forces. Yet MSM is shedding crocodile tears over “brutal” methods of Taliban.
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Mazar-i-sharif fell to Taliban last night and Northern Alliance commanders Atta Mohammad Noor (Successor to Ahmed Shah Masood and Qasim fahim) and Rasheed Dostum managed to flee to Hayratan Border Pass with Uzbekistan. Meanwhile the lion of Herat Ismael Khan is already in Taliban's custody after the fall of Herat. This is brutal and humiliating, looks party is over for NA. It's funny how Northern Alliance leaders are given names like lion, marshal etc, but when the hour came to test their marshal-ness , they ran away lol.
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The way Taliban outmaneuvered every one...Well done boys !
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He did not say where he had travelled to, but leading Afghan media group Tolo news suggested he had gone to Tajikistan
طالبان کی فتح ایک ایسا واقعہ ہے جو پاکستان پر انتہائی گھمبیر اثرات چھوڑے گا ، پاکستان میں موجود دہشتگرد بہت زیادہ ایکٹو ہو جائیں گے
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The first morning in Kabul, after Taliban came to power. You won’t find people walking and no bird to sing. It seems like a ghost city. taliban](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hashtag_click) afghanistan](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hashtag_click) kabul](https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kabul?src=hashtag_click).
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I can feel the change in the air. These are not the same Taliban the world saw during late 90s. They are much more organised, balanced, diplomatic and experienced, and seems like they are in touch with the ground realities and world affairs.
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I can feel the change in the air. These are not the same Taliban the world saw during late 90s. They are much more organised, balanced, diplomatic and experienced, and seems like they are in touch with the ground realities and world affairs.
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Seems to be the case. Their new spokesperson Suhail Shaheen is trying to show Taliban under a different light. Although, he is one man against the might of the entire western media. So, I doubt the world will care if this version of Taliban is more tolerant or totalitarian, because the only thing they know is Taliban = Bad.
Personally, I’m still on the fence, though. The day they allow women a right to education and grant more freedom to people, I’ll fully support them.
Is there a worse ally than Amreeka?
Unfortunately PIA was charging $2500/= per passenger for flights from Kabul to Islamabad. Afghan government has confronted PIA over charging exorbitant fares and have asked to bring fares back to where they were earlier this year, that is, $200/=. Similarly bribes imposed on trucks by Pakistani officials going into Afghanistan have risen to Rs.100,000/= per truck.
Even more unfortunate was the blast at Kunduz mosque. Putin has warned of ISIS being moved into Afghanistan from Syria and Iraq. Since US’ intelligence community has promoted ISIS against Taliban before so they may be helping out again.
Anyway, I hope the hard fought peace in Afghanistan stays:
lol @ US promoting ISIS against taliban.
Taliban is responsible for the security in Afghanistan
on one side they say they wont allow anyone else to operate in their country and on the otherside the hands off approach at the shia killings / security
how naive @ those who say things are better at taliban controlled Afghanistan
The mosque blast wont be last and likely to increase
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Are you sad that Afghanistan lost to Pakistan yesterday?
Aansoo nikal rahay hain!??
