russian media? 
Weak comparison Thap, U.S. media is comprised of thousands of private organizations, Iran has one news organization.
as it says… Note - The following figures may not be entirely accurate but they speak to the larger issue: what happened to these people? -ed
Where are they pulling those numbers from?
Thousands controlled in much the same manner. Each to their own agenda's.
Weak point UTD.
Iranians were in the same room taking notes (as in note taking) when deal was being made. Well, it is not too late for Iranians to reach some kind of deal with the US themselves. Tehran might fall even before a single bullet is fired (bunker busters are not bullets).
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Thousands controlled in much the same manner. Each to their own agenda's.
Weak point UTD.
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Wrong Thappy, you have views in the media from all over the spectrum in the U.S.
Halve them them then add your favorite number from 1-9, still a little sus.
Did Republican Guard Commander Cut Deal With US?
The mystery of what happened to the Iraqi Republican Guard defending Baghdad appears to have been solved if a report in today’s Le Monde is to be believed.
The French daily reports that Maher Sufyan, Commander of the Republican Guard reached an agreement with American forces in which he ordered his forces to surrender in exchange for his transfer via an American Apache helicopter to an undisclosed safe haven.
Quoting anonymous sources, Le Mondeâs correspondent in Baghdad said that Sufyan ordered all Republican Guard forces to lay down their arms and go home. Shortly thereafter an Apache helicopter escorted Sufyan from the Al Rashid camp, east of Baghdad, to an unknown location.
Maher Sufyan is not included on the infamous ãdeck of cardsä created by US defence officials to highlight the most wanted individuals from the Saddam Hussein government. Iraqâs popular Information Minister, Mohammed Saeed Al Sahaf, Naji Sabri, Iraqâs Foreign Minister and Medhat Oumid, the Minister of Health are also not included on the list.
http://www.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=3065&lang=en
Actually this reported deal is not so secret,
It has been widely reported on alternative news sites.
Obviously some people who think that CNN is the unbiased source of all news will have difficulty understanding this.
I am not sure if this is true or not, but it would certainly explain the shift in the war. The Iraqi army seemed to fall apart overnight after doing well in the first week or so
Everyone's forgetting the WMD's.. they 'vanished' too.. and to top the list of 'mysterious disappearances' they travelled hundreds of miles through the Western Border tightly controlled and secured by US forces.
Agreed… Hey i forgot about the tightly controlled western border 
It’s all starting to make sense, i wouldnt be surprised if Sadadm came out with audio tape or video tape which will circulate the arabic media just like osama’s did 
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It's all starting to make sense, i wouldnt be surprised if Sadadm came out with audio tape or video tape which will circulate the arabic media just like osama's did ;)
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I don't think that will be part of deal. No public appearance for six months-to-a year would make sense
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I don't think that will be part of deal. No public appearance for six months-to-a year would make sense
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Well yea, before they forgot to ask osama to sign a contract for no media or public apperance for 6 months to a year.
And now with saddam disappearance and WMB which might be in syria ...it just gives them just another excuse now to tackle syria with diplomatic and sanctions pressure.
Does anyone here really belive this??? Why would the U.S. agree to let all the Saddam regime escape, or help them all escape. Do any of you honestley believe that if the U.S. government had been in contact with S.H. even through contacts and operatives, that they would not just have him killed?
Why is it so difficult to believe that the Iraqi troops decided that it wasn't worth dieing for S.H. ? No matter how, dead, leaving the country, hideing in the country, either way S.H. desserted them.
Of course there will aways be someone around willing to die in a suicide bombing, be a martyr if someone can convince you that you are dieing for Allah / God. What a great afterlife in paradise, certainly better than the hell of living in Iraq and all the jackles fighting over the carcuss.
very similar to osama's situation.
he was forced out of kenya to afghanistan when he was not ready to go there but american's cut a deal with the government to put him hin afghanistan for greater benefits and interests :-)
i won't be surprised if saddam showed up in one of the countries american's are itching to attack :-)
he doesn't need to show up.. but just stay put wherever he is.. like Osama.. and the US can then 'find' him anywhere they want..
Syria has a bulls eye painted on them right now..
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Does anyone here really belive this??? Why would the U.S. agree to let all the Saddam regime escape, or help them all escape. Do any of you honestley believe that if the U.S. government had been in contact with S.H. even through contacts and operatives, that they would not just have him killed?
Why is it so difficult to believe that the Iraqi troops decided that it wasn't worth dieing for S.H. ? No matter how, dead, leaving the country, hideing in the country, either way S.H. desserted them.
Of course there will aways be someone around willing to die in a suicide bombing, be a martyr if someone can convince you that you are dieing for Allah / God. What a great afterlife in paradise, certainly better than the hell of living in Iraq and all the jackles fighting over the carcuss.
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first : your nick explains its all :-)
second : yes i do believe that american's did let him go away for future wars and attacks. further, killing him was never their motive / aim. they started this war with WMD and when the actual day came, they termed it as operation iraqi freedom. what happened to WMD? it is clear they too were aware of the fact that iraq doesn't have WMD so liberation of iraqi's is all they were left with. so they went with it.
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Does anyone here really belive this??? Why would the U.S. agree to let all the Saddam regime escape, or help them all escape. Do any of you honestley believe that if the U.S. government had been in contact with S.H. even through contacts and operatives, that they would not just have him killed?
Why is it so difficult to believe that the Iraqi troops decided that it wasn't worth dieing for S.H. ? No matter how, dead, leaving the country, hideing in the country, either way S.H. desserted them.
Of course there will aways be someone around willing to die in a suicide bombing, be a martyr if someone can convince you that you are dieing for Allah / God. What a great afterlife in paradise, certainly better than the hell of living in Iraq and all the jackles fighting over the carcuss.
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You forgot about the leaflets they were dropping over iraq, telling the iraqi soldiers not to attack them and to give up there arms and surrender. Also they were in constant contact with iraqi army over military radios telling them to lay down there arms. You dont think they might have said YES and cuted a deal to lay down there arms for a safe haven? What about the iraqi fighter jets? Vanished? there is just soo much, if u really think about it, it will all make sense ;)
Notice how this thread managed to get all the 'patriots' to finally materialize? Threatened??