the ghoom tana has totally been made after OONCHA HOON MAIN inspiration…i will make a perfect review on their album deewar very soon..
cd is going to get released on the 20th..(and now 2nd aug)..and maybe u guyz have heard its promo…and its totally noori kinda style.
so there u can see bicharay junoon following Noori already.
Junoon dont follow others. It works the other way round.
well do u know what u are talking about? i am talking about their new song from their album deewar.
look at NOORI and their style..look at EP and their style..look at AROOH... they dont follow any junoon thing..
why cant u junoon fans admit it....
JUNOON has copied OONCHA HOON MAIN and thats it.
simple...is mai aisi konsi baat?
where is SPOCK?
Spock nay kya kehna hai...hez already had enuff now...hez a guy who can talk fish n chips 24/7 about junoon.
and trust me these junooniez will never accept what i said..they will keep arguing..but fact is fact
Well i know i see SPOCK’s name in junoon threads so wondered why no replies. 
anyway ASN did u get my PM?
I haven’t heared junoon’s new album or Noori one so i cant really comment, but I look forward for the debate 
abey halway… Firstly, dragging other guppies into a conversation they are not participating is against gupshup rules, so mind it…
Secondly, its quite obvious you know nothing about music. Junoon does not copy styles, they are too big a band for that. They have clearly experimented and perfected their sound. Read Fraudia’s post or the review the news gave them, they could have clearly went ahead using their conventional azadi-tabla style, but they chose not to do so, as producing the same type of music doesnt conform with a great band like Junoon.
** IN CASE YOU DIDNT KNOW, ALI NOOR IS ALSO SINGING IN DHOOM TANNA, THE SONG YOU SAID JUNOON COPIED FROM HIS BAND HES NOT IN THE PROMO, BUT THE ACTUAL SONG, SO MUCH OF YOUR LITTLE COPYING THEORY.**
Go learn a thing or two about Junoon and Nooris music before ranting senseless crap.
Here we go again :D
Round 2!
Spock vs. T3
Arnie, I understand your frustration about Junoon being on top, but if you cannot have a serious intellectual discussion, dont bother to reply. Here are some of the characteristics of the album, and their features bolded. :hehe:
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Scaling Walls
From spiritual trips resulting in the output of sufi-rock to foreign ones giving way to Zeppelin-inspired tunes, Junoon has come a long, long way and keep rising as they come up with their latest album. An Instep preview!
By Farrukh Moriani
For the last decade or so, Junoon has been categorized as Pakistan’s best music brand, and in true celebrity style, have remained in the news for their music or their personal lives. Courted by controversy, mired in myriad debates surrounding their music and always seemingly at odds with the powers that be within the music industry and beyond, Junoon have lived up to the tag of the rebellious souls of Pakistani music. And yet, amidst all the anti-political posturing, the love-hate relationship with the media, kicking up storms with statements of one ilk or the other, they have successfully managed to stay at the top of their game by doing what they know best and sometimes better: making good music. If you don’t believe that, ask one of the thousands of Junoonis who buy their music and flock their concerts and swear by the name Junoon. Their music may have undergone a metamorphosis over the years, moving from guitar-driven-rock to head banging stuff and then on the religion shading sufi-rock to the hinting of Adult Rock in a contemporary mode to a more commercial/filmi style, but clearly, the junoon is still with them.
Their last album, ‘Ishq’, generated a lot of criticism from fans and critics alike for its distinct abandonment of the sufi-rock genre and its obvious flirtation with a more filmi, mushy style. While this writer would tend to agree that musically, the album didn’t gel in to a great extent and did not serve as the perfect bridge for the gulf that existed between their previous style and their newly acquired taste for the lighter stuff. It is easy to lose sight of the fact that as the premier band in Pakistan, there is a fairly heavy responsibility on Junoon to lead the way when it comes to critical decisions on the shape and sound of their music. Then again, that’s how it works in Pakistan; it becomes so easy for anyone to set a trend. But evolution has to happen, and like many other international acts, bJunoon also made a bold step to change their style of music.** They have been the pioneers when they started off with rock in the local scene, then not too familiar with even the R of it. ‘Ishq’ was 1990 revisited in the context of going with your own flow and working hard to convert the disbelievers. For all their commercial savvy listeners, ‘Ishq’ demonstrated to me at least, **that being true to their own musical inclinations, was still the first priority for the band. **
That said, the album did come in for much of flak at the hands of both sincere fans and the omnipresent hacks. So it would be perfectly reasonable to expect the band to bow before the criticism, revert back to a formulaic approach on their new album, dismiss ‘Ishq’ as an insignificant blip on their career radar and stow it away in the attic and go back to dabbling in the sufi-rock genre, right?
Wrong. In true Junoon style, their new album, ‘Deewar’, moves on from where they left off on ‘Ishq’. Not only is the music predominantly and significantly devoid of aspirations towards sufi-rock or any other formula-driven style, it presents an intriguing attempt at marrying political statements with personal expressions, as well as trying to make honest bedfellows out of rough-hewn rock and neo-pop. Importantly, with so much having been said about the imminent demise of Junoon as a group, the making of ‘Deewar’ is the perfect riposte to all these rumours.
One year in the making and flitting across two continents as it was mixed and produced in Pakistan and in the US, ‘Deewar’ is a statement of hope amidst the many hurdles, the resistance and the prejudices that surround our lives today, particularly against the backdrop of 9/11. The eleven songs on the album are not structured in the sense of revolving around a defined theme, as they touch upon romance, political realism and idealism, but the songs send out positive vibes and have an outlook that falls short of being naive but is sincere. Contrary to everyone’s expectations, the album does not contain any English songs and ‘No More’ which has been on heavy rotation on music channels, does not feature on ‘Deewar’ as it will form part of an English album-being launched through EMI, UK-that will follow the release of ‘Deewar’. To me that’s a plus, for I’ve never been too keen on multi-lingual albums as they tend to dissipate the mood, unless very tightly woven into a specific musical theme and treatment.
Three things stand out for me on the new album, which is due to hit the market on July the 15th: one, the continued pursuit of a sound that nestles somewhere between rock and pop; two, the swapping of some roles and evolution of others within the band; and three, the improved production values on the album which give it a crisp, tight sound. As we’ve said, ‘Deewar’ continues the journey begun with ‘Ishq’ in terms of musical outlook in that it consciously tries to shake off the strait-jacketing of the band in a music genre and tries to break free from the confines of stereotyping. All the songs may eventually be sending out messages - some subtle others harsh - about the need to hope for and believe in better days, but musically, the album is diverse with the softer gentler tones of ‘Sapney’ vying for attention with the bluesy-funky grooves of ‘Pappu Yaar’. This is clearly a result of the growing input of Ali in making the music for the band. Two of the songs on ‘Deewar’, the excellent opener ‘Taara Jala’ and ‘Sapney’ have their music done by Ali and present a sound that is fairly distinct from the rest of the songs on the album. And as part of the evolution of the roles of band members, while Ali dabbles with making music, the album sees the launch of Salman as a serious vocalist.
This role swapping is to me one of the exciting facets of the new album. Clearly, both have miles to go and promises to keep in their new roles, but it has to be said that Ali’s music and Salman’s singing (on the title track which was initially made in English, ‘Hangama’ and the remake of ‘Khwaab’ as well as backing up on ‘Ghoom Tana’) are outright revelations. What is also very obvious on the new album are the high production values, as the work of John Alec and Shehzad Hasan and all the people at Imaad Studios at Karachi and John Alec Studios in New York have lent the album a well-knit, tight sound. Too often, Pakistani music has suffered as much for lack of quality content as it has for poor production values, but on ‘Deewar’ there’s a good package on offer.
There are a number of songs that catch one’s attention, including the romantic ‘Taara Jala’, the flirtation with Ghalib on ‘Hangama’ and the enchanting remake of ‘Khwaab’ -which will be used as an anthem for a UN HIV/AIDS campaign. But to me, the strongest material on the album comes in the form of three songs: ‘Pappu Yaar’, which is a funky, tongue-in-cheek, index finger salute by the band to the people who are trying to write Junoon off (critics and bands alike); ‘Garaj Baras’ which dominates with Ali’s vocal play; and ‘Ghoom Tana’, which can be predicted a future hit with its inspiring feel and message. Incidentally, Ali Noor of noori features as a guest vocalist on this song. It is also interesting to note that the band reveals some of their influences by way of the title song, ‘Deewar’ which is almost homage to Nirvana, particularly their ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ and ‘Baarish’, which is inspired by Led Zeppelin’s ‘Battle of Evermore’. But these two songs along with ‘Maza Zindagi Ka’, which Junoon should file under ‘forgettable’-represent the weaker commercial links in the album. There is also ‘Jhoolay Lal’ -which appears to be a sufi-rock number included on the album for ol’ times’ sake, but will have them dancing in the aisles nevertheless, for Junoon have this kind of music down to pat.
Sabir Zafar’s lyrics tend to lose their intensity, something Junoon has to look on while nobody can beat Ali in the race for the best vocals. Similarly, Salman’s playing and the work of the unsung hero of the band, Brian, continues to mesh together well. Junoon proves to be better called men than boys. Though, ‘Deewar’ might not define the new Junoon sound completely and while it represents a major step forward from ‘Ishq’, I believe that Junoon’s next Urdu album would be another healthy step in the music. There are still some loose ends to the album and the kind of solidity that emanates from the artist being at complete ease with what he has produced does not readily come though on this work.** What ‘Deewar’ does do however, is to prove the band’s confidence in themselves and their desire to make music that is as much a real-politic statement as it is a reflection on their personal lives.**
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abey halway... Firstly, dragging other guppies into a conversation they are not participating is against gupshup rules, so mind it...
Secondly, its quite obvious you know nothing about music. Junoon does not copy styles, they are too big a band for that. They have clearly experimented and perfected their sound. Read Fraudia's post or the review the news gave them, they could have clearly went ahead using their conventional azadi-tabla style, but they chose not to do so, as producing the same type of music doesnt conform with a great band like Junoon.
Oh, and I know you probably heard the promo of dhoom, bachay, in case you didnt know, Salman Ahmed himself said he himself was the vocalist in alot of these promos, and not the original ones. As for Ali Noor, well I got news for you, hes the guest singer in the album, just like Ali Azmat provided some lyrics in his 'oonchi zameen song'.
Go learn a thing or two about Junoon and Nooris music before ranting senseless crap.
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first of all dont come and tell i dont know about music. U cannot judge me. now u are saying JUNOON does not copy styles! now that was the biggest joke of the century...ofcourse they copy style..they way they sing..the music...u think ROCK was invented by JUNOON? even look at their videos...just take their very old video HEERAY..on which they are wearing paati jeans..and ali azmat banging his head like an idiot...and standing around this junk car...
all i said was that they copied ali noors OONCHA HOON MAIN that is right.
now juz cuz of this u are talking about all other stuff. Cant u just admit it? and who said ali azmat provided lyrics in OONCHI ZAMEEN song? are u ok or what..first u junoon guyz said it was ALI AZMAT who was singing this high pitch tone in punjabi in OONCHA HOON MAIN...then u guyz ko patta lagga kay it wasnt ali azmat..now u r saying that he gave some lyrics..and please note "some" lyrics for the songs LOL
i saw an interview with ali azmat on prime tv..jis mai us nay khud kaha kay Noori is a band which has immence energy..and Ooncha Hoo Main track agar ham 20 saal bi laga day us tarah ka nahi banna saktay!
now u will ask for proof..but sorry i dont go around take recordings.
and lastly..fact is fact they copied song that is it.
COPY CATS!!!
Noori ka JUNON say kya mukabla? even though JUNOON has made so many cds..they cud never produce such quality class music like NOORI.
and Spock can u plz stop doing copy paste those long essays form dawn and cnn.
plz this is a discussion board..not a copy paste forum.
and ofcourse ali noor has appeared in the song..cuz JUNOON went to him and begged him to sing ....huh? what does that prove...now they are trying to get Noori...but i know ali noor or wo un sab ko JOOTI par likhta hai!
take that
haha arnold ki kacchi ho gayi!!!
Its a fact Ali Noor is singing in Dhoom Tanna, just like Ali Azmat sang in Noor’s song… Learn a few things…
If you cant carry out an intellectual discussion, its best not to speak
Spock thats what i am saying..why did they copy his style...? dont u see it...and now they are begging for ali noor to sing for them...
i know about intellectual discussion..atleast i dont go to junoon forums..like u do and all those sites like cnn and dawn and just that copy paste.
now JUNOON is getting ALI NOOR!!
finally the LEGEND ALI NOOR...and DOOSRI JAGGA JUNOON trying to use him! LOL
itna hi kaafi hai
sarro!
Oh so when Ali Azmat was singing for them, I guess they were begging him too? Beta, I have talked to Ali Azmat, and he said since hes good friends with Ali Noor, they do alot of stuff together, which is why he sang for them, and Ali Noor is the guest vocalist in this album. Now dont change the topic, you said Junoon was copying Noori and now that teri kachi ho gayi hai, because Ali noor was himself in that song you said they coped, no need to change topics 
Yeah I guess you cant do that, all you can say is ‘amma jee minno junoon nahee changa lagda’
Pathetic reply, its time you find some more lies, and create a new thread, as youve lost it with your senseless argument.
ps dhoom tanna rox!
well u can carry on cuz u have lots of fazool time, but mere paas itna time nahi. well yes they did copy the style..that is what i mean from START…kay wo NOORI ka style kar rahe hain samaj nahi a rahi?
and talking about lies? atleast i dont take PHOTOSHOP and do editing and change the VOTING POLLS.. hahaha
jhoota to tu hai sab say barra.
read that thread or dekh teri kitni bisti hoyi
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well u can carry on cuz u have lots of fazool time, but mere paas itna time nahi. well yes they did copy the style..that is what i mean from START...kay wo NOORI ka style kar rahe hain samaj nahi a rahi?
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ok , I admit, you lost the argument, haha
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and talking about lies? atleast i dont take PHOTOSHOP and do editing and change the VOTING POLLS.. hahaha
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no need to change the topic, kher Allah knows that you, Mr. Admin changed the polls, I dont need to challenge that, can you swear in the name of Allah that you didnt switch the polls? I am ready to do that? Kher, you are a proven makaar, and everyone knows that. p.s. where
jhoota to tu hai sab say barra.
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read that thread or dekh teri kitni bisti hoyi
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haha, when I last read it, alot of ppl asked you why you changed it, hehe
p.s. running away so soon, i was just getting started... dar gya!
its because i have a life. cant sit like an idiot here and reply u all time.
though reply will always come..but i cant reply all time within 5 mints..cuz im doing other stuff.
cya
come on guys aren't u two getting a bit carried away here?
waisay i'm finding this all very amusing :) carry on....
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*Originally posted by Arnold Shalwaar Nicker: *
its because i have a life. cant sit like an idiot here and reply u all time.
though reply will always come..but i cant reply all time within 5 mints..cuz im doing other stuff.
cya
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Im still waiting for you to swear? hehe btw, i thought u were gone to sleep, LOL
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*Originally posted by coolmunda_2000: *
come on guys aren't u two getting a bit carried away here?
waisay i'm finding this all very amusing :) carry on....
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haha, read his stupid argument... junoon is copying nooris style in one particular song where ali noor himself is singing LOL