atleast severely reprimanded. This painhead moron said on ARY TV fundraising program that we dont need any help from anywhere and we can take care of this calamity ourselves. Now he can go and take care of 30K plus who have died and millions affected and homeless people. This is the time when Pakistan need most help from anywhere .
Such an irresponsible statement from this mullah.
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In other news, Qazi said the same thing... He even went as far as to suggest sidelining the army since they cant be trusted as they kill their own ppl lol!
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This is Idiotic...they don't understand the damage right now...even if Pakistanis can somehow temporarily handle the situation on their own....the infra structure is so destroyed they need a lot of help for the future rebuilding....
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^ ditto
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Misinterpretation of words and then spouting them unintelligently is not the greatest hallmark of a good intellect…
Did it occur to you he might be talking about manpower of which 
there is no lack in Pakistan?
But then, how else would anyone get a chance to deride a person with a beard…A Mullah…
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Abey its no misinterpretation, he was referring to world banks donation... now dont tell me the world banks offerring man power?
As for the thread starter, dont take JJ seriously, knowing him personally, hes just confused... Just remember, its our moral duty to wear shalwar kameez!
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^lajawab....You are right...this is a very wrong interpertation that you just did of what we are trying to say here.....Pakistan don't even have the specific man power that we need right now....no,we don't need any labour right now...we need specialized skillful rescue teams & medics/paramedics right now that can help establish the temporary setting for the effectees...Pakistan doesn't have the specialized rescue teams as pakistan is not prone to earthquakes...& stop being defensive...in my eyes & all those who are "muslims"....a mullah,a imam from whom you learn is the most esteemed one....
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As for Qazi, this was the news article I found...
Qazi urges govt to reject ‘peanut aid’ from US, UK
By Our Staff Reporter
LAHORE, Oct 9: MMA President Qazi Husain Ahmad has welcomed the Rs5 billion relief package announced by the federal government for the quake victims, but urged the authorities to reject the “peanut aid” offered by the United States and the United Kingdom.
Speaking at a press conference here on Sunday, the MMA leader also opposed distribution of the aid through armed forces, insisting that the army had lost trust of the nation.
*“It is not a popular agency now. People are not satisfied with it, as it is fighting against (patriotic) tribesmen and seminaries.” *
Calling for igniting the civil society and utilizing the civil administration for relief work, he said the package should immediately be put at the disposal of the NWFP and AJK governments because people there had been hit the worst.
Criticizing the US and the UK for offering little aid ($100,000 and $50,000, respectively) to their front line ally, the Qazi demanded that the help offer must be rejected for being too low.
Highlighting the miseries being faced by the quake victims, he said not a single house had been reported as undamaged in Balakot while the shelterless people were facing hailstorm and rains.
Qazi Husain, who is also amir of the Jamaat-i-Islami, said he had mobilized Jamaat’s subsidiary — Al-Khidmat Foundation — for carrying out relief work in the NWFP and the Azad Kashmir.
One relief camp each had been set up in Abbotabad and Batgram districts and 20 truckloads of relief goods had been dispatched for them from Rawalpindi. Five truckloads each from Karachi and Lahore were on way to the affected area, he said.
The Jamaat itself had donated Rs10 million from its funds to the relief work while the UK Islamic Mission had offered 50,000 pounds, he said.
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That was oct 9th spock...Qazi Hussain should not be claiming this now...I know he is a good & respected muslim...but he shouldn't get biased & open his eyes and see the destruction around him & decide what would he prefer...dying people or grants from USA/UK/China etc....
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Yeah, thats what Im saying too, he should welcome aid, but he has his own politican agenda, afterall hes a politician, but in such times, even politicians should show some heart.
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Today I heard a lady and her two year old was rescued by a British rescue team from the rubble... Qazi should seriously have a look at this British lady holding the baby she rescued amidst cheers!
clip is available on cnn.com!
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Well, skilled rescue workers don’t come under manpower…Every skilled rescuer is an asset however volunteers from other nations are not needed…The cost to transport volunteers would be better spent on equipment and aid skilled rescue teams…
People have a habit of blistering at anything a religious person says…Funny thing is, these blisters are the exact ones that claim education and tolerance…
As long as you agree with these illiterately educated people, they are OK…But seems they have a hard time with opposing or different views…They just blister…
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French rescue workers are in Balakot....I guess Chinese in Muzaffarabad & British in Islamabad....knowing special techniques to found for people in debris....
Pakistani troops aided by French experts today rescued 40 children and retrieved 60 bodies from the rubble of a school that collapsed in the massive earthquake, a Pakistani television station and a military official said.Major General Shaukat Sultan, the army's chief spokesman, said he could not immediately confirm the report. The French Defense Ministry spokesman's office in Paris said it had no information on any rescue at the school in Balakot, pointing out that it was very difficult to get information from Pakistan.The children were among an estimated 370 students who were trapped in the rubble of Shaheen Foundation School in Balakot, a scenic town in northwestern Pakistan that was badly hit by the 7.6-magnitude quake.Pakistan's private Geo television said 40 children had been rescued. It cited one of its reporters, who was at the scene.
"According to our information, French experts and our soldiers have saved 40 students, and pulled out 60 bodies," a military official said by telephone from Balakot. The official, who didn't want to be named because he is not authorized to speak to media, said he received the information from an army major involved in the rescue.A villager, Sajid Awan, said by telephone that he had seen six children who were rescued at the site. He said the rescue operation was continuing when he left the area.Residents had been trying in vain to remove the debris with their bare hands. Yesterday, several French experts and hundreds of Pakistani soldiers arrived in Balakot.
Garhi Habibullah: Once A School, Now A Grave
Pakistan after the earthquake was a nation stunned. Maqsood Rehman, a social worker at Garhi Habibullah's main mosque, sat dirty and bloody-knuckled from the 11 graves he had dug. "This is a natural disaster, but also one made by our government," he said.When the Earth's crust popped 10 kilometers below the pine-studded mountains around the village of Garhi Habibullah, in northern Pakistan, the ground vibrated like a tuning fork.Instantly, the main building at the girls' high school crumbled into tonnes of rubble. The collapse killed about 200 teenage girls in one of the deadliest single disasters so far known from Saturday's quake. Nearby, the boys' high school and the hospital - both built by the Government in recent years - also caved in, killing another 15 people, among more than 30,000 the quake has killed.At the girls' school the classroom building was a stack of rubble about two metres high. Muhammad Shafiq, one of the school's watchmen, examined the ruin. He was in the school's courtyard when the earth jolted, he said, recalling the terror that began about 8.50 a.m., as the girls were in class. "Some of the children ran to me and I held them."Amid a cloud of dust and the screams of girls, the building fell, "so fast that nobody was able to run out of it", he said.
Shafiq and other men began tearing apart the roof above the collapsed second storey. "We were able to pull out about 95 girls alive," he said.He then dashed over to the boys' school in search of his son, Bilawar, 16. "No one could tell me whether he was alive or not," Shafiq said.He returned to the girls' school, where villagers were trying to reach crying survivors trapped beneath the concrete ceiling of what had been the first storey. "We had just some shovels and a sledgehammer," Shafiq said.The men shoved timbers under the massive slab to try to pry it up. "We used a jack to lift part of it," Shafiq said. A thin man in a dirty shalwar kameez "managed to squeeze under and pull out a few girls", but they had died, Shafiq said.As they labored, military helicopters flew above. Shafiq and others prayed the soldiers would see their plight and order a crane or backhoes - anything to lift a concrete slab from their daughters, where the strength of distraught fathers and uncles had failed. In the end, "we couldn't get many of the girls out", Shafiq said."Until about 1 p.m. we could hear them," he said, but the voices faded during the afternoon. "By 5 or 6 p.m. everything was silent."As the men crowded into the cemetery, burying their daughters and sisters, they said government corruption had caused the tragedy."The private schools around here didn't fall - only the government schools," said Muhammad Firdaus, a veterinary assistant whose daughter escaped."When the government pays out a rupee to build something, not [even a quarter of it] … actually pays for construction," Firdaus said. Six village men who had spent the day digging graves took up the complaint. Contractors pay bribes to officials to get construction jobs, then skimp on the concrete and reinforcement bars that should hold up buildings, they said.
"The tectonic plates collide just below here," said Khizar Hayat, a geology graduate from the village who works in Islamabad. "We need earthquake-proof buildings, not third-rate buildings with too little cement in the mortar."Pakistan's President, Pervez Musharraf, declared government corruption a key reason for seizing power in a 1999 coup, declaring then that "never have so few plundered so many". Critics say his anti-corruption campaign has been ineffective, in part because it punishes enemies rather than enforcing good governance.
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Miyaan Jeee, Jab dhari walla kahey ga kowwan me challang lagaoye gey, yah amreeka chorney ko kahey ga, will you go ahead and do that ? Its time for you to stop acting like a dunce and actually support what makes sense, without any preference to a dhari walla or non-dhari walla
When these rescue workers from outside of Pakistan travel half the globe for a good cause, or raise money, we should APPRECIATE them, not blast them in media, just because they belong to a different faith, let go of this hatred, its not good for you.
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I guess Pakistani govt. is not so dumb that it would ask for skill less volunteers from far flung countries to come to Pakistan for help… take it easy.
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The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has sent two special flights carrying a 70-member rescue team and two sniffer dogs, which have been earmarked for Mansehra. A 25-member French team that arrived on Sunday with necessary earthquake related equipment left for Rawalakot Monday morning for relief work.
Turkey has despatched 100-member rescue team with equipment that has already left for Muzaffarabad while two C-130s carrying relief goods from Jordan are expected to arrive in Islamabad shortly, she added. A 50-member Chinese rescue team has been sent to Balakot. The country has also pledged financial assistance worth $6.2 million, five tonnes of aid goods and six sniffer dogs for help in relief operations.
The spokeswoman said that two Japanese rescue teams arrived in Lahore on Sunday and were on their way to Battagram. A 26-member Spanish team with six sniffer dogs has been sent to Bagh through helicopter for carrying rescue work there.
The Russian government has sent 43 specialists, special vehicles and sniffer dogs which were being sent to the AJK capital. The spokesperson said Russia is sending another special flight with relief goods and rescue team that is scheduled to reach Islamabad today (Monday). It will be sent to Muzaffarabad.
Saudi Arabia has announced two flights with relief goods. One of them has already arrived and the other is expected shortly. She said Germany has sent a special flight carrying relief goods and 15-member search and rescue team, which was being sent to Muzaffarabad. A special flight carrying 13-member rescue team, oil, rice and blankets has arrived from Iran and sent to Mansehra.
Belgium is sending a five-member rescue team and relief goods for the quake-affected people. She said more flights are expected to arrive Islamabad from Germany, Jordan, United States and Russian Federation carrying relief goods and rescue teams.
Meanwhile, the long awaited US helicopters finally arrived in Pakistan and according to the spokesperson they are already to operate in areas where devastation and lack of road access needs their services on top priority. "These helicopters would be flown by American crew members as is the case with the other ones that are helping out. The nationality of the crew is not an issue," she said.
Earlier there were reports that Pakistan had indicated that it did not need any American troops for rescue efforts and it would prefer to use its own pilots to fly these choppers. Besides pledging financial assistance, and Chinook helicopters, the US has also sent 5,000 blankets, 250 rolls of plastic sheets and 5,000 Jerry Canes which have been handed over to the Cabinet Division for onward distribution. Two rescue teams were also expected from the United States on Monday.
The eight heavy-lifting US helicopters from Afghanistan flew into Pakistan from Afghanistan more than 72 hours after the quake hit Pakistan. This was despite the fact that the choppers were right next-door in Afghanistan. A large C-17 aircraft also flew to Pakistan carrying 12 palettes of food, water and blankets, the US military said, as the relief operation after Saturday’s huge earthquake kicked into gear.
The helicopters, five large Chinooks and three smaller Black Hawks, would deliver aid, transport personnel and airlift survivors, a US military spokesman said. The twin-rotor Chinooks were useful for "lifting support" as they were able to pick up several people at once and carry tonnes of aid, he said. "The Black Hawks are smaller, they have more manoeuvrability, are quicker transport and efficient, useful in rescue operations," he said.
Later, the US Ambassador in Pakistan said that the US would donate US 50 million initially and this was not a final sum as it could increase keeping in mind the assessments made in the future about the disaster. Earlier, the US had been severely criticized for its offer of "peanuts".
The United Kingdom was the first to dispatch a 15-member team that was helping the local relief workers at Margalla Towers in Islamabad. It has sent another team of 88, which has been divided into different teams and being sent to Muzaffarabad for rescue and relief operation.
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Thats awesome Goliko, Ive heard these 'sniffer dogs' are far more effective than the life/heating sensing equipment they use to track survivors...
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^Yes....& i hope & pray Allah Taala that anything that can give hope,strength & courage to these grieving pakistanis... should work now....so that these long waited & tragedy striken pakistanis have some calm....
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The air of distrust was underscored in July when Castro rejected an offer of U.S. government assistance after Hurricane Dennis plowed into Cuba, causing about $1.4 billion in damage and killing 16 people.
Last month U.S. officials turned down Castro’s offer to send more than 1,500 Cuban physicians to Gulf Coast areas devastated by Hurricane Katrina.
“There were two hurricanes and two offers of aid and they both got turned down for political reasons,” said Philip Peters, a Cuba expert at the Lexington Institute, a Washington-area think tank. “That’s too bad.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/chitribts/20051010/ts_chicagotrib/tougheruspolicycurtailsaidtocubans
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help is help, no matter who is offering it. but its a pretty natural thing for some to be gracious and for others no to be.
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**“It is not a popular agency now. People are not satisfied with it, as it is fighting against (patriotic) tribesmen and seminaries.” **
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Shame on YOU QAZI for exploiting the earthquake situation for your political agenda. You are hitting below the belt of the entire nation. I spit on your face.