Judges restoration, YES/NO? Clarification (Threads Merged)

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Re: Judges restoration, YES/NO? Clarification (Threads Merged)

@Sa1eem

Is this your above statement true or lie? If it is true, can you please quote any of my post where I linked taking (or not taking) oath on 2nd PCO with corruption?

I didn’t say you LINKED the two, I said you kept raising the issue wherever you talked about his refusing to take oath

Well, I hope that you are replying after reading my post and not B-Sing for sake of B-Sing:). Have your not read in my above post that if judge gives wrong verdict, still that verdict get carried out? So, judge cannot get persecuted or punished on wrong judgments. They can only get persecuted or punished for other charges not related to judgments, like nepotism, corruption, misuse of power, misconduct, etc. Here is quote of what I wrote (in your reply regarding FGI understanding law).

oh yaar, I am talking about his crimes obviously, read my statement here:

Why is he not being prosecuted in a court now for the crimes he committed?

@Sa1eem

So, obviously Iftikhar cannot be persecuted for wrong judgments. As for punishment on corruption and other charges, if Iftikhar was to be dealt fairly, that could have happened after giving Iftikhar chance to defend against such allegations. President did try to give Iftikhar chance to defend himself as President sent reference to SJC to get investigated. So, punishment of Iftikhar was supposed to happen after investigation by SJC. Unfortunately, corrupt judges of Supreme Court stopped SJC to carry out investigation and since result of investigation did not come out, punishment did not happen.

Lets say the Ch Iftikhar is corrupted of the crimes in the reference, care to elaborate on the timings of his crimes? I bet he didn’t commit all those crimes in a space of 2-3 months after taking “panga” with Musharraf.

@Sa1eem

Though SJC can start investigation without reference from President, they cannot do anything of that investigation, as they have no authority on other judges. Only President can act or sack a judge. Thus, it is not duty of SC judges to ask SJC to investigate other judges, and in reality it was ridiculous of Supreme Court Judges to interfere or stop Supreme Judicial Council from investigation, but they did and since Iftikhar made the case not judicial but public case, government did not pursued the case (it was political decision by government not to question the verdict by Surpeme Court and let Iftikhar get away with corruption).

Thats all fine and dandy, corrupt and crook SC bench is out. Now that “corruption-free” SC is on the bench, why is govt not prosecuting Ch Iftikhar?

@Sa1eem

Now what answer I can give to you? You are asking question same way some Pakistanis ask when they are told that SHO that lives in 50 million rupee house is corrupt.

SHO extorts money from people thru his subordinates, are you suggesting Ch Iftikhar was doing same?

@Sa1eem

Yea, I did. Judges were not replaced but they lost their job because they refused to work. They could have only worked if they had taken oath under PCO, because after emergency, constitution was put in abeyance and it became working requirement of Judges to take oath on PCO so that they can give judgments and verdicts according to PCO.

so the “corrupt” judges didn’t continue on the job, had they taken oath they’d have been on the bench and govt would’ve been okay with the corrupt judges on the bench, is that what you are saying?