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ahem ahem Mr Bill Speaks, i think space bar of your keyboard is broken
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May Allah Grant him high place in Jannat. Ameen.
Re: Journalist who published story of nexus between Navy and Taliban is missing/ murd
May Allah Grant him high place in Jannat. Ameen.
Aameen summa aameen
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Whoever did it, we will never know. Just as we never know about other things happening in the country. So far, three separate inquiries have been ordered but I can bet none of them will bear any fruit. In a few days or weeks, there will be (godforbidden) something new, something equally or even more tragic and we will be discussing that thing here, in a new thread - with a new inquiry.
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Whoever did it, we will never know. Just as we never know about other things happening in the country. So far, three separate inquiries have been ordered but I can bet none of them will bear any fruit. In a few days or weeks, there will be (godforbidden) something new, something equally or even more tragic and we will be discussing that thing here, in a new thread - with a new inquiry.
Sad but true.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/01/world/asia/01pakistan.html?_r=1&hp
Pakistani Journalist Who Covered Security and Terrorism Is Found Dead
By CARLOTTA GALL
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — **A well-known Pakistani journalist has been found dead after being abducted over the weekend in an upscale neighborhood of the capital and receiving repeated threats from Pakistan’s premier intelligence agency.
**The journalist, Syed Saleem Shehzad, 41, wrote predominantly about security and terrorism issues for the Hong Kong-based Asia Times Online and the Italian news agency Adnkronos International. He disappeared Sunday evening in the center of the capital, Islamabad, just two days after writing an article suggesting that a militant attack on the navy’s main base in Karachi on May 22 was carried out because the navy was trying to crack down on cells from Al Qaeda that had infiltrated the force.
Pakistan’s armed forces, and specifically the navy, have been highly embarrassed by the 16-hour battle that ensued at the base when six attackers climbed over a wall and blew up two American-made naval surveillance planes. Ten people were killed in the attack, and American and Chinese technicians working on the base only narrowly escaped injury as they were driven out through a hail of bullets.
A former navy commando, Kamran Malik, was arrested Friday, along with his brother, in a sweep by Pakistani intelligence agents in connection with the attack.
Coming soon after the American raid on May 2 that killed Osama bin Laden, which caught the Pakistani Army and Air Force flat-footed, the attack on the naval base has shocked the entire country. **The armed forces chiefs have been deeply angered by the humiliation they have suffered from both episodes, and in particular the many questions raised about their competence by Pakistan’s increasingly rambunctious media.
Journalists reacted to Mr. Shehzad’s death on Tuesday with horror and said the military and the chief intelligence agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, were sending a warning to others.**
Mr. Shehzad’s body was found Monday about 100 miles away near his abandoned car and was identified from photos by his family on Tuesday. Pictures of his body shown on television revealed that his face had been severely beaten.
**Ali Dayan Hasan, the country representative for Human Rights Watch in Pakistan, said his abduction and killing bore all the hallmarks of Pakistan’s intelligence agencies. “It is quite clear by his own account and from his reports that they were deeply unhappy with his reporting,” Mr. Hasan said.
Mr. Shehzad had been receiving threats from the ISI for about three years because of his reporting that often relied on sources inside the intelligence agencies and inside the Taliban and other militant groups. Mr. Hasan said he had managed to confirm Monday that Mr. Shehzad was being held by the ISI.
Mr. Shehzad had a history of threats from the intelligence service. He moved from his hometown, Karachi, to the capital several years ago after receiving threats. Last October, he was called in by senior ISI officials who delivered a clear death threat to him if he did not reveal his sources on a recent story he had written, Mr. Hasan said.
According to Mr. Shehzad’s own written account after the encounter, the two officials were naval officers, Rear Adm. Adnan Nazir, the director general of the media wing of the ISI, and his deputy, Commodore Khalid Pervaiz, who has just been appointed to replace the commander of the Mehran naval base in Karachi after last week’s attack. Calls to the ISI and the military press office for comment went unanswered.**
Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani expressed deep grief over the death of Mr. Shehzad and ordered an immediate inquiry into his kidnapping and death, the government news agency Associated Press of Pakistan reported.
Mr. Shehzad was driving to a television studio on Sunday evening to be interviewed about his latest article when he was abducted. He never arrived for the interview and did not return home afterward. His wife called Mr. Hasan at Human Rights Watch because he was one of the people he told her to contact in the event of his disappearance.
**Mr. Hasan said he was able to establish that Mr. Shehzad was being held by the ISI through senior government officials and unofficial channels. He was told that Mr. Shehzad would be released Monday night, but in fact it seems he was already dead by then.
Mr. Shehzad found himself like a growing number of Pakistani journalists caught in a pincer between the intelligence agencies, which act outside the law in detaining and pressuring journalists, and increasingly ruthless militant groups, Mr. Hasan said. “It makes it very dangerous to report between the two,” he said.**
Pakistan became the deadliest country in the world for journalists last year as eight journalists were killed there in the course of their work in 2010, the Committee for Protection of Journalists reported. Six of the eight were killed in suicide bombings or cross-fire as the insurgency has intensified in Pakistan, but journalists have also suffered beatings, disappearances, and threats from the military and intelligence service as well as from militant groups.
**An award-winning investigative reporter, Umar Cheema, was kidnapped and beaten over a period of six hours on the outskirts of Islamabad last September. Mr. Cheema had written several articles for The News, a prominent daily, that were critical of the army. He blames the ISI, which is an integral part of the military, for his abduction.
“This is the law of the jungle, of armed actors who can kill you or hang you upside down until you are dead, and one of them is a state body and that is appalling,” Mr. Hasan said.
Still, Mr. Shehzad was undaunted. A young reporter, Ihsan Tipu, who worked with Mr. Shehzad, said he consulted him just days ago about the dangers of reporting in Pakistan. “He said, ‘Don’t quit, look at me, I have faced threats and I am still reporting,’ ” he said.**
Salman Masood contributed reporting from Islamabad, and Waqar Gillani from Lahore, Pakistan.
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another link, http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/31/police-missing-pakistani-journalist-dead/
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I can't believe it! I am perplexed and very sad.
I know ISI picks up different people for interrogation but I did not know that they execute some after such a severe torture. I can't understand why they would do that. Even if he published more than ISI could handle, even then he did not deserve such a tragic end.
All fingers are pointing towards ISI since Shahzad himself had told HRW about threats from ISI. But I think it is going to be difficult to implicate ISI in this murder without honest investigation done. The government is promising investigation but no one will count on such "committees". Only purpose of such committees is to soothe people and buy time so that people may forget and move on.
But against all odds, I still hope those criminals in ISI could be apprehended.
ISI's crimes against common people must be stopped. Nobody deserves to be illegally picked and executed in such gruesome manner, even if Taliban extremist.
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Maybe he knew too much about the security agencies and hence became a threat to them (he had sources within them)...
After OBL, and PNS incident the media has been very critical of the armed forces for the first time in Pakistan's history, and that was difficult for them to digest, therefore the killing could be to restrain others...
As we all know, no results will come out of this killing as the hundreds before this, no proof of who killed him and still it will deliver a strong message to the intended audience (media).
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I think it could be barathi raw agents posing as Al Qaida Millitans who in turn are posing as ISI agents to make them look bad. This makes perfect sense!
Once again brilliant! It was discussed and concluded in other threads that the only country who benefited from PNS Meheran attack was the barathis and they were responsible for the attack. So what can be wrong with "who benefits" angle !
Or someone in the ISI/authority was surprised by the level of "lies" in the journalist Saleem Shahzad Atimes article and did not want more "lies" out in public, lest some more "lies" get them in hot soup ala OBL fiasco.
how foolish . you are still talking about indian involvement? your navy chief has accepted insiders involvement . here you are ranting again bharati and indian hand ,how low you can go? no limit.
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I think the time has come for ordinary pakistani's, to cut the PA and ISI down to size.
They have been doing this for far too long.
I am saddened by this, and this seems to be a warning by the 'perpetuators' to other Journalists to back off.
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a small detail, and credit to an unnamed judge. the police did a postmortem and buried him, and a judge ordered the body exhumed so it could be handed back to the relatives. dont know if the hasty burial was standard procedure, or deliberate.
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I can't believe it! I am perplexed and very sad. I know ISI picks up different people for interrogation but I did not know that they execute some after such a severe torture. I can't understand why they would do that. Even if he published more than ISI could handle, even then he did not deserve such a tragic end.
All fingers are pointing towards ISI since Shahzad himself had told HRW about threats from ISI. But I think it is going to be difficult to implicate ISI in this murder without honest investigation done. The government is promising investigation but no one will count on such "committees". Only purpose of such committees is to soothe people and buy time so that people may forget and move on.
But against all odds, I still hope those criminals in ISI could be apprehended.
ISI's crimes against common people must be stopped. Nobody deserves to be illegally picked and executed in such gruesome manner, even if Taliban extremist.
Oh my...didn't know this poor naive soul was born yesterday...this pseudo shock and false indignation at ISI's conduct reminds me of Captain Renault from the film Casablanca, I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
Only a troll would be shocked at ISI's ruthless and egregious behavior as if it's unprecedented and/or an exception...
Re: Journalist who published story of nexus between Navy and Taliban is missing/ murd
a small detail, and credit to an unnamed judge. the police did a postmortem and buried him, and a judge ordered the body exhumed so it could be handed back to the relatives. dont know if the hasty burial was standard procedure, or deliberate.
I can not narrate in English.
Kuchh arsah pehlay us kay seenay main shaid aik goli lagi,jis ki wajah say us ki paslian kamzor theen. Ghaliban woh zalmon ka baheemanah tashdad bardasht nah kar saka aur us ki paslian toot gain jo mot ki bari wajah bani. Phir us ki lash chhupanay ki koshish ki gai jis ki wajah say us ki body khrab ho gai thi, phir garmi shadeed hay jo bhi body khrab honay ki aik wajah hay.
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I can't believe it! I am perplexed and very sad. I know ISI picks up different people for interrogation but** I did not know that they execute some after such a severe tortu**re
now who is naive one? please don't call others and their thinking naive,, look in the mirror.
and now what about missing persons cases?? every1 forget...
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now who is naive one? please don't call others and their thinking naive,, look in the mirror.
hey, you don't know what I meant by that.
I am not going to reply to you in this topic out of respect for Saleem Shahzad.
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Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Rajioun, sad, very sad.
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yes Americans tou ab local hi hain
Americans local kabhi bhe nahee ho saktay- Ap nay wo mohavra nahe suna "Gadha chala HANSS ki chal or apni bhe bhool gya". Bilkul wesay he Americans bhe jald bholain gay InshahAllah, Mairay bhaii Akhir aisay khab daikh kr Russians bhee aye thay or Pit k bhag gye. (1 dafa to Americans bhee Vietnam se bhag chukay hain)
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Whoever did it, we will never know. Just as we never know about other things happening in the country. So far, three separate inquiries have been ordered but I can bet none of them will bear any fruit. In a few days or weeks, there will be (godforbidden) something new, something equally or even more tragic and we will be discussing that thing here, in a new thread - with a new inquiry.
words...
InnaLilahe wa Innaelahi Rajeoun..
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US casualties are fairly low in afghanistan, and had it not been for the fiasco in Iraq, US would have been well set there.