under what circumstances is fighting for land=jihad?
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when your land is invaded and you fight to defend it.
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but isnt jihad fighting for islam/allah?
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There are different opinions regarding this, but all (IMO) agree that if your land is a “Islamic” one then it is definitely a jihad to fight to save it.
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Jihaad is only for the sake of Allah. you cant do jihaad for your country or musharraf or saddam. only to make Allahs deen supreme!
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"Fight against those who believe not in Allaah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger and those who do not acknowledge the Deen of Truth among the people of the scripture, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission." [EMQ 9: 29]
Allaah (swt) has made Jihaad an obligation upon all Muslims, just like your five daily prayers, fasting in Ramadaan or making a once in a life time pilgrimage to the House of Allaah (swt).
What is Jihaad?
The word Jihaad is derived from the term "al-Juhd" which means "To make substantial effort". The scholars of Islaam have agreed that Jihaad means to fight in the path of Allaah or anything aiding this course. The great classical scholar Imaam Abu Haneefah said that Jihaad means to be involved in fighting in the path of Allaah by one's life, wealth and speech (e.g. by calling for it).
The types of Jihaad
In Islaam there are 2 types of physical Jihaad:
1) Offensive Jihaad (Jihaad ul-Mubaa-da'ah)
This type of Jihaad is usually only carried out by the Islaamic state. There are three stages, which lead to Jihaad. Firstly, the people are invited to embrace Islaam. If they refuse to become Muslims then they are requested to become citizens of the state (dhimmees) and are asked to pay jizyah (a small tax). If even this is refused then the State declares war upon them.
2) Defensive Jihaad (Jihaad ud-Dafi')
"And why should you not fight in the cause of Allaah and of those who being weak (and oppressed) - men, women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord! Rescue us from this town. Whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect; and raise from us from You one who will help!" [EMQ an-Nisaa, 4: 75]
Defensive Jihaad is an obligation upon the Muslim whose life, honour and wealth are being attacked. They are required by Allaah (swt) to fight and protect these. Thus this type can be carried out without the existence of an Islaamic state. The foreign policy of the Islaamic state is offensive jihaad.
The purpose of Jihaad
The purpose of offensive Jihaad is to remove any obstacle which is in the way of implementing the laws of Islaam (i.e. the Sharee'ah). The Sharee'ah is a comprehensive system of life, covering all aspects of life to govern mankind by. Whether Muslim or non-Muslim, the State would protect the life, honour and wealth of every one of its citizens.
Difference between the Foreign Policy of the West and Islaam
When the Islaamic army enter and fight they are not allowed to kill women, children or the elderly. Neither are they allowed to mutilate the dead bodies, cut down trees or burn down buildings etc. Compare this to the foreign policy of the West that seeks to destroy everything and everyone in their path to gain power. Examples of this can be seen when the British and French colonised the "developing world". Women were raped, land and natural resources were pillaged and plundered and the rich were made richer whereas the poor became even poorer.
In Islaam, material benefit is not what motivates Muslims to carry out the command of Jihaad; rather it is obeying and submitting to the Creator. Regarding the matter of Jihaad Allaah (swt) says in the Qur'aan: "Fighting is prescribed upon you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing that is bad for you. But Allaah knows and ye know not." (EMQ 2: 216)
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and when Allah swt says fight them when they fight you, is that not jihad?
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of course, but what was the context? why did Allah send that verse down? and what were they fighting for?
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Jihad is a mediaeval concept, it had meaning only for times when Sultans and Emirs ruled. Pakistan's defence policy should be based on advancing the national interest not on mediaeval theology.
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bhaiyo (Faisal and jangjo), this thread does not have anything to do with Pakistan, its foreign policy, its army bla bla bla. ..... its just puristical (?) regarding jihad, mucho gracias.
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where law of land follows Islamic law (Shariah), not just a constitution which says Quran as the supreme law but then makes its own stupid laws/regulations etc.
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right so i wanna know if the palestinians fighting for land, pakis fighting on behalf of kashmir (again for land), would be looked upon as jihad(and thus mandatory) according to islamic shariah.....
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i have read it many times. what is the problem captain? did i say something wrong? let me know and if i was wrong i will retract my statement.
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its simple. if they are fightin to make Allahs word supreme then it is Jihaad. in Jihaad you might become Shaheed. can u be shaheed dyin for a country?
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captain1 i understand defensive jihad but the point is..would it still be mandatory if by accepting a certain state (israel in this case) there would be no fear of attackk or need for defending themselves?
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Brother i think you might wanna check up what you just said. jihaad is an ongoin obligation and not just for sultans and emirs!
go see what Allah and the Prophet(Saw) said about Jihaad.
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Per your post:
“Defensive Jihaad is an obligation upon the Muslim whose life, honour and wealth are being attacked. They are required by Allaah (swt) to fight and protect these. Thus this type can be carried out without the existence of an Islaamic state. The foreign policy of the Islaamic state is offensive jihaad.”
Then you also say:
“its simple. if they are fightin to make Allahs word supreme then it is Jihaad. in Jihaad you might become Shaheed. can u be shaheed dyin for a country?”
when your country is attacked, is that not attack on your “life, honour and wealth”?
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well it depends on yr intention. would you agree? if i intend do die for pakistan to stop it from gettin taken over for the sake of my country is that jihaad?
or if i die fighting the one who invades muslim land to rid the word of Allah and i die fighting to make Allahs word supreme. which is jihaad?