Can someone please explain what this means when used in context of meat consumed by the Sikh community?
When meat is referred to as jhatka it is because of the way in which the animal is slaughtered. The sikhs would just cut the whole neck off. Muslims on the other hand are suppose to just cut the jugular vein and let the blood flow .. not cut the whole neck off because that stops the brain and the heart of the animal and thus the blood does not completely flow out.
I might not be completely right so if anyone got a better understanding id appreciate their comments on Jhatka
[This message has been edited by D500s (edited February 28, 2002).]
I am never going to visit Channmahi.
JhaTka means..with one JhaTka kaam tamaam. So the belief is that by doing so you subject the animal to momentary pain instead for extended period of time. Some Sikhs believe they are not supposed to eat meat at all, others believe they can if it is killed by quick strike JhaTka and animal is not subjected to pain.
There is no sacripture read or religious ritual performed at JhaTka to my knowledge.
ps: NYAhmadi,tainu te main halaal karaNga...hauli hauli chhuri chala ke, wich wich saah lai ke lutaf naal..
wich wich saah lai ke lutaf naal..
I am never going to visit Channmahi.
tainu te main halaal karaNga...
Chann Gee, e kis-taran karo ge¿
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Originally posted by Muzna:
**Can someone please explain what this means when used in context of meat consumed by the Sikh community?
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Is it specific to sikh community? I always thought that any meat which is not zabeeha (or kosher) is referred to as 'jhatka'.
Guys, i knew a few sikhs in my lifetime and only two were bona-fide turban wearing types. The first was real close friend from childhood who told me that the worst type of meat for a sikh to eat was halal because of the way the animal was killed. the other, not so close, told me that even eating eggs was wrong.
one of the 'other' type of sikhs who didn't wear a turban once asked me to lift him on my shoulders during a bhangra do, but then he was probably intoxicated.
PaThwari, awein puThay question nai karide hunday.(check the inverted question mark in his post).
Roman, bass ainnee yaari si...ikk jhaTkay toN dar giyaN?
Xtreme, can you please introduce that 'other' type of sikh to NYAhmadi? Thanks. mere galloN lathay ga.
Standing on shoulders 3 men high is one of the bhangra moves....the real bhangra I mean not the type that daler mehndi does.
Xtreme, can you please introduce that 'other' type of sikh to NYAhmadi? Thanks. mere galloN lathay ga.
hahahaha!
I am new to this concept myself. I didn't know sikhs had a problem with Zabeeha meat! A friend of mine who is a Sikh told me that Sikhs dont eat Jhatka meat as it is considered cruelty to the Animal. And she also said that Sikhs eat all type of meat! There weren't any restrictions even eating Pork. Which was so strange to me as I know a lot of Hindus who dont eat pork even if they do eat beef.
So now it makes total sense.
Since Sikhs are peace loving and non-violent people, the don't want the animal to be subjected to pain.
I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but how can they then condone it's killing to begin with? That's another subject, I suppose.
I have one really good friend that is Sikh....she will not even eat eggs, while her father and brother will eat meat. I noticed this in many Sikh families....the women will follow the religion more stringently than the men. Why?
they don't want the animal to be subjected to pain.
I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but how can they then condone it's killing to begin with? That's another subject, I suppose<<
Not at all. I am a Hindu and let me inform you that many communities take Halal to be rather sadistic, because it involves slow death to the animal.
I don't mean any disrespect, infact I know the intention of the Muslim doing it is the exact opposite, he is praying to Allah and saying I am slaughtering this animal for food etc., right?
As for 'condoning' the killing to begin with, there is a difference between killing period and torturing and killing.
Read my first post above...I said there is no clear cut verdict from religious perspective on the meat issue....in fact debate still continues. Some very religious sikhs don't eat meat or eggs. Thats why I said "some sikhs believe..."... it is belief or faith for some.
Eating which meat and which not is a very much cultural conditioning thing. If you are brought up not to eat beef then you develop a mental barrier in your taste against it after a while....even before tasting it you know it does not taste good. Once we have that barrier we can rationalize to support it. Barrier could be against anything...some people hate Bangans very religiously...they would rather die hungary than eat a bangan.
Channji, what kind of stupid theory is that? I wasn’t surrounded by alcoholics when I was growing.
NYA...
It works both ways. Sometimes, being asked to refrain from something makes you more curious.
You will find many Pakistanis/muslims brought up in religious surroundings who grow up and develop a taste for wines and drinking.
On the other hand there are many (even in the same group) who refuse to have anything to do with pork all their lives. They won't even taste it even one time because the mental block is so high. And they rationalize their distaste for pork by religious/cultural/intellectual theories.
Point being, u can flip either way.
NYA, alcohol causes some pain and suffering(both for the drunkard and for his family)...beef, pork, jhaTka, halaal don't.
Also, even if you grow up surrounded by alcoholics many others will still tell you how bad alcohol is and its example will be in front of you but no one will dare to tell you that pork tastes good(personaly I don't think it does) or jhaTka is good.
Pristine, your theory is worst than Chann’s. You are saying if it is not tail then it is head. All I was saying is that I was not surrounded by Alcoholics while I was growing up. Now I am surrounded by them. Don’t take it out of context.
Channji, yeah yeah...you are just trying to lure me into your jaal. MaiN na PaKra jaooN ga aap say.
MaiN na PaKra jaooN ga aap say.
I testify to that -- he's way too chikna.