Jews

[shardmanny]

Re: Jews

^if you have a point to make, make it.

the places themselves were not the point anyway, but like i say if you have a general point, make it

[Raj_ind]

Re: Jews

@shardmanny

the bolded word is Al-fasiquna

the actual opening is addressing the Sahaba RA - YOU ARE THE BEST OF (ummatin) PEOPLE RAISED FOR THE MANKIND,

its a statement of fact

I beg to disagree. According to my understanding, ALLAH is referring to muslims as the best nation evolved for humankind. Thanks for letting me know the actual word used. Now its more clear to me.

talking about the Quran being wrong is something exclusive to the shia. the shia encourage a hypocrites view on the Quran (you have been told to recite as we do, 2000 narrations of its distortion and not one, from hujjats, of its perfection), so if you do associate with them then you wont ever be far from this conclusion

the verse and hadiths clarify if we are to differ, like for example on which generation is the best of this ummat, for those who believe. so those who believe do admit the Sahaba are the best generation of believers. of course those who disbelieve will have a hard time stomaching the verse, which is soo complimentary to the Sahaba

i have been reading this master piece, on jumah which was introduced into shism around 400 years ago!, from one of your eminent sites:
This (Verse) has been distorted O Jaber!
Imam sws said to Jabir this verse has again been distorted! This Ayath was descended like this:
This Ayath descended like this

in speech shown here: When drunkards get access to pulpits - YouTube
at the moment they say there is no Imam and no Quran, basically no sure religion, they are to just recite like us as to fulfill taqiyah requirements of their own religion. i say this is a form of the worst people, worse then jews, christians and the other kuffar
the faults of the muslims(sunni) are just that faults. we call to Islam but we are suffering from wahn

the disbelievers and the hypocrites will for us to deny the truth, and as long as we do not deny the truth, rather we proclaim the truth we can remain hopeful of the mercy of Allah SWT

Its surprisingly unfair for U to write like this. Where I said holy quran being wrong? I wonder what prompted U to write like this except ur reservations about shias. I dont want to make it a sectarian dialogue. I m pained to know that I m among the worst people in ur list, worse than jews, cheistians, and other kuffar. But why? Can U plz specify? And plz also let me know ur views about the treatment served to poor Hadrath Abu Dhar Ghiffari by few Sahabis? What our beloved prophet said about Hadrath Abi Dhar is well known to us. Now who is responsible for the atrocities committed on him could be the question which can open ur eyes to reality.

I m glad to learn that U can remain hopeful of the mercy of ALLAHA but we cant. Lets wait.

the poem by Iqbal is appreciable by all, since it doesnt clarify what exactly he is calling to, so everyone has something to cling to from it. if he is talking about muslims suffering from ‘love of dunya’ then i agree with his call

I think he is pointing towards the fact that there are very few muslims left in this world.

[chacha_Ghalib]

Re: Jews

@shardmanny

^if you have a point to make, make it.

the places themselves were not the point anyway, but like i say if you have a general point, make it

The point is that you're proposing a system of governance without knowing anything about it. It might work in your head but not in the real world. You're unable to provide a working example of this system despite claiming that such examples exist.

[5amra]

Re: Jews