I totally agree, just leave Israel out of it, I dont think they would like to live amongst Muslims based on what the muslims have done to them since 48. Killing thier innocent childern with suicide bombs etc.
The rest of the ocuntries are fine include SA in it as well. All the arabs that have been divided will be re-united so they can engage in incest again and live happily ever after.
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What Muslims have done to them since 48? And did they forget what we did to them before 48. Never in the history of the Jews they were that much protected in Muslim states, but fine, I don’t mind it. I want Muslims to live in dignity and honor, and I hope the Jews don’t forget who was behind the holocaust.
Verizon sahab, Its very easy to bash Arabs and Muslims, when someone says any thing against the Jews on GS, but still compared to the websites in US and EU which are totally dedicated to annihilate the Jews from the face of the earth, I am still hopeful that the Jews will once again find protection among Muslims, Its our tradition against their tradition.
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^^ No they won't and they won't be needing protection from Muslims either. I think they can fend for themselves better than the so called arab muslims that are hell bent on destroying Israel.
I agree that Jew were better protected under muslims but thats history. Times have changed. Its like telling Mukhtaran Mai, that her rapists have done their pennance and will live amicably next to her house. I dont think so. Same can be applied Jew vs Arab.
Mind you I am talking Arab vs Jew here, not muslims.
Muslims can live in dignity and honor only after they shun their BS archaic customs of child marriages, ball washing and standing up for Rapists. Watch Osama the movie. An eye opener for the Ummah. Now lets all denounce it as western propaganda again.
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Thats what i am saying as well, they need protection from the people who really want them off the face of the earth and I think the Muslims are not the one who want that. The issue of Israel will be resolved one day, but that hate in US and EU against them will rise his ugly head some day.
Times have changed, thats what you think, ask a Jew who went through the Holocaust if itis really changed. Tell this to a jew and tell him to live in Poland or Germany, I think that would be more related to Mukhtaran Mai and his rapist. Alhamdulilah Muslims were never part of that . At the end of the day The jews will alwys have to live with Muslims arabs or non-arabs.
And please make up your mind, Arabs who protected the Jews were all Muslims, and they didnt protect them because they were Arabs.
Msuslim have their own eyes and ears and at least they dont need an advise from a Hindu, whos knowledge about Islam is only based on posts from GS, to denounce or announace any thing. A Msulim dosent have to stand up in front of you or any news medis to clear his postion for any injustice.
And about our “BS archaic customs” in Pakistani-Islam are based on the influence of Hindu tradition “Perm Para” on pakistan culture. The day those are shunned out Muslims will have better control on thier issues.
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I knew that would the only word you will pick up, shows the ground where we stand.
and by the way it said
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filthy influence of Hindu tradition “Perm Para”
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And the day you will start practicing Islam, there will be a big change in you not in Islam, So keep on preaching for now.
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It is the same thing as saying that all the bad things that happen in India are the result of msulim influence over the interactions going back a millenia. You know better than that Minime.
IN calcutta there is a thriving jewish community that hails from Iraq and the middle east, there are armenians and parsis in INdia as well. Where do you think these people came from after the islamic hordes went murdering and pillaging the near east and central asia? Did they go to Mecca? NO!! Calcutta and gujrat and maharashtra..why?
It is not Prem Para..It is Parampara..liteally meaning tradition. It is not a good or bad but dual connotations to it. Traditions are a cumulutative and changing concepts. They ar enot static. Chances of them being changed because of some static rule is ridiculous. Rules will change before Parampara does.
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this is the biggest lie of history.
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Ahh the hindu Archangels on a Pakistani bulletin board, telling muslims about Islamic history, I love this. Hey Anjjan I would pray to my lord to make people more Un-Anjjan.
The last I heard the Jews fearing persecution went to Morocco Tunisia, Egypt and Iran,(Muslim states) Karachi and Calcutta also got some chunks so what dose that change, that they were persecuted by Muslim pre 48. Dear history is not just based on events like the Holocaust, the events like holocaust are the result of hate which brews for centuries upon centuries and then its shows its ugly face, and as I said Alhmadulillah Muslims were never part of it, so start looking somewhere else for that. The last 50 years are just one drop in the bucket.
This is my take on Islam in Pakistan, traditions (Parampera), which have no basis in religion and law of the land, can spread misery for the people and this is what we see in Pakistan, and especially when your neighbor practices his tradition as religion there is a chance that you will get infected as well.
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Right, so non-muslims shouldn't have a pespective on Islam but you can keep paroting filthy indian traditions wihtin Pakistani Islam. Makes perfect sense.
While you are harping on the inclusiveness of muslims, do keep in mind the holocaust of the armenians. I am sure they have their own parampara that was filthy per Islam.
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Anjjan, prove it otherwise. This just shows your ignorance. The era that Jews thrived in is unquestionably the era when Middle east was ruled by Muslims.
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^ Not really..the era that Jews thrived in was the era the middle east was being ruled by the jews.
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Jews never did rule Middle east. I think you mean to say their own little corner they call Israel.
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Yeah that and portions of syria, samaria etc... god bless the chosen ones. They rightfully derserve their land back.
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Matsui, on the same basis so do the native Indians in North America. Let me know when you are willing to reloctae and give the state of NY back to them since the christians swindled it for $2....
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Yeah of course we can play that game all the way back to Pakistan. :)
What was in the past is in the past. Muslims killed a lot of non-muslims and also provided havens for others under their terms. I just wish muslims today who live as sizeable minorites in non-muslim countries can get over the fleeting golden age siht and live happily with their compatriots instead of friggin jihad this..and jihad that.. world will be a much safer place.
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Non-Muslims have all the right to have perspectives on Islam but Matsui you, specially you with six years on this board and a dozen nicks shouldn’t mention anything about parroting, someone has to look at just one word "archaic' and can find out what really parroting is. So if someone just mentions the word Hindu Traditions for the first time at GS it wouldn’t stand out as parroting.
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Anyway, I still believe that Pakistani-Islam has traditional filth on it and the sooner we get rid of it the better for Islam and Pakistan and this is not parroting its just a Muslims perspective on Islam.
And by the way you failed to mention the Bangladeshi massacre by the Pakistani troops since that has every thing to do with Islam isn’t it?
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matsui posted this in the thread I split this discussion from:
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Hopefully with the help of emerging china, muslims would be able to eradicate the Jewish cancer in Palestine.
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how and why wud "emerging" china help us in eradicating this jewish cancer???
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well,
the muslims would have to educate themself, get rid of their dictators. We have to develop our economies. HOpefully in the future alliance of china and muslim counties, would end white colonies including israel.
we have to learn from the chinese. They were the underdogs and they are now the overlords. Taiwan is just like israel, but now china is capable of kicking its rear