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*Originally posted by Iqraa_k: *
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Allah be any material being present within the universe, because His must be a will that existed before the universe and created the universe thereupon. The Almighty Creator is One Whom everything finds existence, yet Whose existence is without any beginning or end. All ability and power comes through Allah.
In all respects than how can god have a son?
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God created us. Sinse he did. Couldn't one concider him Father? In that essence..aren't all of humanity his children? Jesus particularly in a most special way?
Sinse, (it seems) we agree that Jesus was born of Mary by immaculate conception. ***
Which seems to be confimed with:
19:20 She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
19:21 He said: "So (it will be): thy Lord saith, `That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': it is a matter (so) decreed."
and also
21:91) And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our Spirit, and We made her and her son a Sign for all peoples.
In my thinking 19.21 says all with the phrase, 'That is easy for Me.'
Because.....
The Almighty Creator is One Whom everything finds existence, yet Whose existence is without any beginning or end. All ability and power comes through Allah.
Tells me that God can have a son if He decrees that it be.
Jesus called himself "Son of Man." He concidered Allah his father.
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And their none comparable unto him.
When time and matter came into exsistence, hence the universe came into exsistence. That is why Allah is the Eternal and Absolute, time and matter do not apply to Him.
Allah be any material being present within the universe, because His must be a will that existed before the universe and created the universe thereupon. The Almighty Creator is One Whom everything finds existence, yet Whose existence is without any beginning or end. All ability and power comes through Allah.
For god to have a son it defys god to be eternal and absolute. Reproduction occurs for the survival of the species and to put forht ones legacy, because everything is ordained with a specific time than dies. Allah is not of this universe He is absolute, therefore he is not matter. The laws of matter do not apply to Him.
Prophet Isa or Jesus was created as Allah created Prophet Adam it is not hard for Allah He just says Be and it is. Allah decreed Jesus to be born without a father it is easy for him. His birth is a sign on to mankind.
If I could prove from the Qu'ran in twenty simple quotes that Isa (as) is dead and that all of the mainstream translators have mistranslated and misled the masses, would you be intrested in seeing it?
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If I could prove from the Qu'ran in twenty simple quotes that Isa (as) is dead and that all of the mainstream translators have mistranslated and misled the masses, would you be intrested in seeing it?
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don't you guys also believe in sahih muslim to be an authentic book after Quran?
As I said before, we believe in them to be authentic books as we are also followers of ahadith and sunnah of Rasulallah (saw). But they are lesser books than the Qu'ran, are they not?
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As I said before, we believe in them to be authentic books as we are also followers of ahadith and sunnah of Rasulallah (saw). But they are lesser books than the Qu'ran, are they not?
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true but everyone interpret Quran as they please..there is a hadith in sahih bukhari..where Prophet (pbuh&up) clearly said that there won't be any prophet after him..shia sunni both believe that..u should too
I won't answer that here, since it has little to do with Jesus, but if you would care to post with the reference of the hadith in my Ahmadis thread, then I would be glad to help you.