New Docufilm investigates evidence that Jesus may have visited India; jesus-in-india-the-movie.com
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yep....
and bani israel were actually promised india not palestine so they shud shift their focus to india and leave the poor muslims alone....
Good one there !
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there r muslims in india too!
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This is the Ahmadiya Sects belief that Jesus AS came to Kashmir and then died there.
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^^Thank for info..
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Did Christ come to India to study Buddhism, Vedas?
New Delhi, Dec 25 (IANS) The spotlight is back on Jesus Christ and his India connection as the world celebrates Christmas Friday. Some historians believe he spent 17 years of early life - from the age of 13 to 30 - in India learning Buddhism and the Vedas.
“There are references that Christ’s family (parents) settled in Nazareth, but the next time he appeared in Nazareth, Jesus was 30. He was said to have been growing in wisdom and stature in the missing years,” British film producer Kent Walwin told IANS.
Here to receive the Dayawati Modi Award for arts, culture and education in 2009, Walwin’s latest project, “Young Jesus: The Missing Years”, will explore early years of the messiah, which are not described in the Gospels.
According to Walwin, his movie is “on the Apostolic Gospels, which says Jesus was last seen in West Asia when he was 13-14 years old”.
The first part of the movie will be based on Gospels and the second part of the movie will be “pure conjecture based on archival material”, the filmmaker said.
There are several references to the India connection.
In 1894, a Russian doctor, Nicolas Notovitch, published a book called the “The Unknown Life of Christ” based on his extensive journeys in Afghanistan, India and Tibet.
During one of his journeys, he visited Leh, the capital of Ladakh and spent some time at the Buddhist monastery of Hemis when he broke his leg.
At the monastery, he was shown two large yellowed volumes of a document in Tibetan language, “The Life of Saint Issa”. Jesus was referred to as Issa - or the son of god - by the Vedic scholars who tutored him in the sacred texts.
Notovitch noted down 200 verses from the document at the back of his journal which he kept during his travels. The document later created a storm in the West.
Monks at the monastery of Hemis, located 40 km outside Leh atop a hill, corroborate to the legend of Christ in India.
“Jesus is said to have visited our land and Kashmir to study Buddhism. He was inspired by the laws and wisdom of Buddha,” a senior lama of the Hemis monastery told IANS. The head of the Drukpa Buddhist sect, Gwalyang Drukpa, who heads the Hemis monastery, also believes in the legend.
Swami Abhedananda, a Bengali spiritual scholar and seer, had journeyed to the Himalayas to investigate the “legend of Christ visiting India”. His travelogue, a book titled “Kashmir O Tibetti”, tells of a visit to the Hemis monastery in Ladakh. It includes a Bengali translation of 224 verses of the “Issa legend” which Notovitch copied.
In 1952, another Russian, Nicholas Roerich, a philosopher and a scientist, visited Hemis and recorded the legend. According to Roerich, “Jesus passed his time in several ancient cities of India such as Benares or Varanasi”.
“Everyone loved him because Issa dwelt in peace with the Vaishyas and Shudras whom he instructed and helped,” Roerich said in his account.
Christ’s teachings in the ancient holy cities of Jagannath (Puri), Benares (in Uttar Pradesh) and Rajagriha (in Bihar) earned him the wrath of the Brahmins, forcing him to flee to the Himalayas after six years, historians and authors say. Christ, say archival documents, spent another six years studying Buddhism in the Himalayas.
German scholar Holger Kersten’s book, “Jesus Lived in India”, also tells the story of the early years of Jesus Christ in India.
“The lad arrives in a region of the Sindh (along the river Indus) in the company of merchants. He settled among the Aryans with the intention of perfecting himself and learning from the laws of the great Buddha. He travelled extensively through the land of the five rivers (Punjab), stayed briefly with the Jains before proceeding to Jagannath,” Kersten says in his book.
An English version of an Urdu treatise written by the founder of the Islamic Ahmaddiya movement, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908), also tells of a “second visit by Christ to the subcontinent” after his “reported escape from the Cross”.
Christ visited Afghanistan, “where he met the Jews” who had settled there to escape the tyranny of the Jewish emperor Nebuchadnezzar and then came to the Kashmir Valley, where he lived for many years.
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Rubbish Fabricated Story.. to support Qadiyani/Ahmadi relegion...
Its worth a dust bin ..
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Interesting . Thank you.
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Peace All
Post #7 cannot be factual. I also insist that the Ahmadis take exception to it. Jesus (AS) did not come to the world to learn, he came to teach.
Personally there are too many claims other than India as to where Isa (AS) went after the accounts in the Bible. However, this one is worth the mention ... I need not remind you that there are strong Islamic traditions that Isa (AS) was a prophet from birth and he (AS) taught from childhood. As a prophet of God he did not need to learn any scripture as the scripture that was revealed to him was his to portray.
No prophet of God sat in libraries, classrooms or qualified in any academic art. They came blazing with sheer Knowledge and taught it to humankind.
Peace All
Post #7 cannot be factual. I also insist that the Ahmadis take exception to it. Jesus (AS) did not come to the world to learn, he came to teach.
Personally there are too many claims other than India as to where Isa (AS) went after the accounts in the Bible. However, this one is worth the mention ... I need not remind you that there are strong Islamic traditions that Isa (AS) was a prophet from birth and he (AS) taught from childhood. As a prophet of God he did not need to learn any scripture as the scripture that was revealed to him was his to portray.
No prophet of God sat in libraries, classrooms or qualified in any academic art. They came blazing with sheer Knowledge and taught it to humankind.
It matters not much to me where He (AS) is buried. What matters most is that He (AS) died on this Earth, and is not to be returning. Ahmadi Muslims believe it is the tomb of Jesus (AS) in Kashmir India.
If He (AS) was to teach and not to learn, I then wonder why would there be need of Him to come back to the Earth and learn Islam before teaching it. If He (AS) is taught Islam already, I would like to know by whom.
It matters not much to me where He (AS) is buried. What matters most is that He (AS) died on this Earth, and is not to be returning. Ahmadi Muslims believe it is the tomb of Jesus (AS) in Kashmir India.
If He (AS) was to teach and not to learn, I then wonder why would there be need of Him to come back to the Earth and learn Islam before teaching it. If He (AS) is taught Islam already, I would like to know by whom.
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It should matter to you where he is buried. It is because according to Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, Isa ibn Maryam (AS) is buried in Kashmir. It is a belief for you not only that he (AS) has died but also that he (AS) has died and been buried there.
I only said teach because it is written by your own. Mirza Tahir as written in Christianity from Facts to Fiction that Isa (AS) went to India to "tend to the lost sheep of Israel" who he claims was part of the mission of Isa (AS) to preach and teach them.
I don't hold such a view. However, the Hindus are saying that Isa (AS) came to learn the scriptures from the Hindus, which is doubly absurd for me and should be for you.
Isa (AS) teaches Islam by what was given to him from childhood he (AS) has no need to learn it.
Peace Mr. Popat
It should matter to you where he is buried. It is because according to Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, Isa ibn Maryam (AS) is buried in Kashmir. It is a belief for you not only that he (AS) has died but also that he (AS) has died and been buried there.
I only said teach because it is written by your own. Mirza Tahir as written in Christianity from Facts to Fiction that Isa (AS) went to India to "tend to the lost sheep of Israel" who he claims was part of the mission of Isa (AS) to preach and teach them.
I don't hold such a view. However, the Hindus are saying that Isa (AS) came to learn the scriptures from the Hindus, which is doubly absurd for me and should be for you.
Isa (AS) teaches Islam by what was given to him from childhood he (AS) has no need to learn it.
I never refused that i do not hold the belief of him being buried in Kashmir...neither did i refuse that he went to India for lost sheep of Israel.
What actually my point of the post was that if he(AS) has been taught already... what will happen during His (AS) second arrival(if he(AS) will come? What will He (AS) be teaching ..if anything? will he 'learn' first or will be taught already?
I never refused that i do not hold the belief of him being buried in Kashmir...neither did i refuse that he went to India for lost sheep of Israel.
What actually my point of the post was that if he(AS) has been taught already... what will happen during His (AS) second arrival(if he(AS) will come? What will He (AS) be teaching ..if anything? will he 'learn' first or will be taught already?
Peace Mr. Popat
Isa (AS) his primary objective on his return will be to settle the score with Dajjal.
Round up the world under Islam and rule
His actions will be how we learn from him. His life will become the role model of a follower of Muhammad (SAW). As he (AS) will be the best of those followers. Just like his earlier mission he was the best of the Jews by being a practitioner of the religion of Moses (AS) ... on his arrival he will be the best of the Muslims of his time again by being a practitioner of the religion of Muhammad (SAW).
The only difference being the first time around he also bought a new message whereas the second time around he brings a new movement.
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Many people believe that Jesus Christ did not die on crucifix. So the whole theory of resurrection does not hold true for these folks.
The Best of the Sons of Men
Ancient scrolls reveal that Jesus spent seventeen years in India and Tibet
From age thirteen to age twenty-nine, he was both a student and teacher of Buddhist and Hindu holy men
The story of his journey from Jerusalem to Benares was recorded by Brahman historians
Today they still know him and love him as St. Issa. Their ‘buddha’
Rubbish Fabricated Story.. to support Qadiyani/Ahmadi relegion... Its worth a dust bin ..
wow, every single alternate theory is to support the Ahmedi sect, right?
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oh well to prove that never happened.. yes money can do it..
Peace Mr. Popat
Isa (AS) his primary objective on his return will be to settle the score with Dajjal.
Round up the world under Islam and rule
rule? not like a king but as 'Hakm-o-adal' in religious matters. will revive the true spirit of Islam, shariat-e-Mohammad(pbuh).
Remember, First time he was supposed to re-establish the kingdom of david(as). did he? Jews were waiting for a divinely guided political leader (king)? Was he one?
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His actions will be how we learn from him. His life will become the role model of a follower of Muhammad (SAW). As he (AS) will be the best of those followers. Just like his earlier mission he was the best of the Jews by being a practitioner of the religion of Moses (AS) ... on his arrival he will be the best of the Muslims of his time again by being a practitioner of the religion of Muhammad (SAW).
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wow. I agreed most of the above statement of yours, apart from the fact that Jesus(as) himself will not return since
1) he is no more
2) was a messenger to the bani-israel not to the whole world
3) was subjected to Torah and Injeel not Quran
4)..
5)... and so on
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No prophet of Allah (SWT) has been taught by men.
Jesus (AS) did not need to learn from the Buddhists ... he is their master and he is taught by Allah (SWT) - inspired.
These theories are false and have no substance to them ... all we need to do is scratch the surface and we'll see many problems with those theories.
rule? not like a king but as 'Hakm-o-adal' in religious matters. will revive the true spirit of Islam, shariat-e-Mohammad(pbuh). Remember, First time he was supposed to re-establish the kingdom of david(as). did he? Jews were waiting for a divinely guided political leader (king)? Was he one?
He (AS) according to our beliefs will be a leader like the early Caliphs of Islam. Yes, he will revive the true spirit of Islam.
wow. I agreed most of the above statement of yours, apart from the fact that Jesus(as) himself will not return since 1) he is no more 2) was a messenger to the bani-israel not to the whole world 3) was subjected to Torah and Injeel not Quran 4).. 5)... and so on
His first mission was to unify the lost sheep of Israel. They were lost in the spiritual sense and he guided them. That is the principle lessons which are still somewhat preserved in the current Christian scriptures.
His second mission was for a sheep not of that fold. But of the coming era. An era near the end of time. Just as you believe, however, albeit in a different body. Isa (AS) was the manifestation of the Torah and the Injeel and shall be a follower of Qur'an and Sunnah on his arrival. This is our belief and I agree this is where we part ways with the Ahmadiyyah.