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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
Let's accept your interpretation that the verse is limited to Jesus declaring his prophethood to the people at age 30 years; which begs the question.. Where is the mention of Jesus declaring his prophethood a third time to people in his second coming??
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In His 2nd coming he will not be coming as a Prophet (Summoning people to his earlier teachings before Islam Al Injeel). Rather he is coming for another specific duty - He and Imam Mahdi will summon people to AL Islam. The last Revelation.

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Originally posted by google:
In His 2nd coming he will not be coming as a Prophet (Summoning people to his earlier teachings before Islam Al Injeel). Rather he is coming for another specific duty - He and Imam Mahdi will summon people to AL Islam. The last Revelation.
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Does Quran say similar statement as you are writing or its just what you have been taught? I will appreciate to see verses from Quran on this subject.

on the other hand, if you read Quran, the list of beliefs has been outlined as.."aamano bil'la he, wa malaekatay he, wa kotobay he, wa rosolayhe..." i.e to believe in Allah, and His Angles, and His Books and His Messengers...

this is the believing creteria for Muslims... and among Humans in the above list only Prophets are meant to be bvelieved in.. If Imam Mahdi or Jesus are not be a Prophet than its absolutely not mandatory to believe in Them, thats what i as a Muslim would follow...

furthermore, how can Allah who had blessed someone with such a noble rank as Prophet can resend Jesus again with lower or no rank..

another point worth pondering is that before Mohammad(sa) all the prophets were sent for a particular time and for a particular nation, while Holy Prophet was sent as a universal reformer... this is the main and major difference between Him(sa) and other prophets.. so how can someone who has been sent earlier for a specific nation, come back and become a universal reformer?..

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Naik Shareef
I am reposting it again (the Hadiths).

Hazrat Isa Al-Masih(pbuh)

  • "By Him in Whose Hand is my life, Ibn Maryam (Jesus Christ) would certainly pronounce Talbiyah for Hajj or for Umrah or for both (simultaneously as a Qarin) in the valley of Rawha." (Sahih Muslim, Book 7, No. 2877)

-"Allah will send Maseeh ibne Maryam (Messiah son of Mary). Thus he will descend near the White Eastern Minaret of Damascus, clad in two yellow sheets, leaning on the shoulders of two angels." (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 8, P. 192-193)

-"Hazrat Masih(SAW) will die after completing the duration he was destined to pass in the world and that Muslims would offer his funeral prayers and bury him next to the grave of the holy Prophet, Hazrat Abu Bakr and Hazrat Umar (RAs)." (Mishkat, P. 480)

-By Him in Whose Hand is my life, Ibn Maryam (Jesus Christ) would certainly pronounce Talbiyah for Hajj or for Umrah or for both (simultaneously as a Qarin) in the valley of Rawha. (Sahih Muslim, Book 7, No. 2877)

-"By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, Son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizyah (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no one will accept charitable gifts." (Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 3, Book 34, No. 425)

  • Mujammi Ibn Jariyah al-Ansari(RA) stated that he heard the Messenger of Allah(SAW) say: The son of Mary will kill the Anti-Christ (Dajjal) at the door of Ludda. Tirmidhi and Ahmad)

Hazrat Imam Mahdi

  • The world will not come to pass until a man from among my family, whose name will be my name, rules over the Arabs. (Tirmidhi Sahih, Vol. 9, P. 74; Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 5, P. 207; also narrated by Ali b. Abi Talib, Abu Sa'id, Umm Salma, Abu Hurayra)

-Allah will bring out from concealment al-Mahdi from my family and just before the day of Judgment; even if only one day were to remain in the life of the world, and he will spread on this earth justice and equity and will eradicate tyranny and oppression. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, P. 99)

-Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initially was filled with oppression.(Abu Dawood)

-The promised Mahdi will be among my family. God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night. (Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)

-Our Mahdi will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. He will fill the earth with justice as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He will rule for seven years. (Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, p. 208; Fusul al-muhimma, p. 275)

-After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madina) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him. Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground. On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat. (Abu Dawood)

-A group of my Ummah will fight for the truth until near the day of judgment when Jesus, the son of Marry, will descend, and the leader of them will ask him to lead the prayer, but Jesus declines, saying: "No, Verily, among you Allah has made leaders for others and He has bestowed his bounty upon them. (Sahih Muslim)

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Originally posted by naik shareef:
** Does Quran say similar statement as you are writing or its just what you have been taught? I will appreciate to see verses from Quran on this subject.**
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This is what most of us are thought. The verse about Al-Masih has been quoted extensively in this thread.

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on the other hand, if you read Quran, the list of beliefs has been outlined as.."aamano bil'la he, wa malaekatay he, wa kotobay he, wa rosolayhe..." i.e to believe in Allah, and His Angles, and His Books and His Messengers....
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Yes. I am in full agreement on this.

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this is the believing creteria for Muslims... and among Humans in the above list only Prophets are meant to be bvelieved in.. If Imam Mahdi or Jesus are not be a Prophet than its absolutely not mandatory to believe in Them, thats what i as a Muslim would follow.......
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Jesus (or Esa Ibn Maryam pbuh) is a prophet. And we should agree on this.

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*furthermore, how can Allah who had blessed someone with such a noble rank as Prophet can resend Jesus again with lower or no rank.. *
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Allah swt do n’t strip prophet hood from any of his chosen messenger. He will always be a prophet in Dunya or Akhira but he is not coming to preach a new deen or bring a new Kitab. At least that is what I am told.

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*another point worth pondering is that before Mohammad(sa) all the prophets were sent for a particular time and for a particular nation, while Holy Prophet was sent as a universal reformer... this is the main and major difference between Him(sa) and other prophets.. so how can someone who has been sent earlier for a specific nation, come back and become a universal reformer?..
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What's wrong with being a Universal reformer? Islam is universal brought by messengers that lived before Muhammad saw. Adam, Nuh, Abraham, Musa, Esa and Muhammad; all of them were Muslims.

If you never try anything new, you'll miss out on many of life's great disappointments.