You do not guess you are an optimist, you are an optimist and as i told you earlier, i appreciate you having this conversation with me in this thread. This is between me and you. Essentially you were answering the doubts and questions i had in my mind and i think you are a teacher so you are of the noble profession and it is good to pass on opinions wisdom and knoweldge to other people. Now if stoppit over there thinks i am thickheaded and will not get what you are saying then that is her/his problem. Stoppit can be such a good example of a passimist:hmmm: