Javed Hashmi made president of PTI

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I don’t like it either, but a time must come when you talk to them. :bummer: To those that want to talk. Try and bring them back into the social cycle, provide jobs, and let life flourish. Only those that want to talk. Those that want to blow things up, one should be prepared to blow those terrorists up.

Having said that, you do have keep in mind a lot of what Imran Khan says is for the sake of PC - as in political correctness. It will do him no favors if he alienates certain sections of the society before elections, before he’s had a chance to do some good. And by certain sections, I mean traditional and moderate, right wingers (not necessarily terrorists or religious goons). :hoonh: Because if you can’t connect with them, you’ll lose that support base, which will be taken over by any other party.

For what it’s worth, I consider PML-N as a party, a much bigger terror/religious fanaticism supporter than PTI.

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the brain and cash drain that has plagued Pakistan is a greater threat to the nation than any Taliban ideology.......

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I think you are wrong. Taliban ideology is worse thereat than any imaginable threat. Corruption, Mismanagement, nepotism, brain and cash drain all taken together are minor problems compared to Kharji ideology of Taliban.

All existing evils are destroying Pakistan economically, socially and morally. But ‘Taliban ideology’ in Pakistan would bring ‘Fitna’ of mass scale Killings, exodus, civil war, atrocities, violence, and religious corruption along with all existing evils.

Most funny thing is that, if Taliban ever took over Pakistan, first one who would run out of Pakistan saving himself from getting hanged (or getting his head chopped off) would be Imran Khan as he is the only confirmed (and known) ‘Zani’ in politics, with illegitimate child from Sita White. Imran continuous contact with Jamaima even after divorce, Jamaima Jewish background, Jamaima keeping Imran kids along with illegitimate one, etc ... would become questionable in front of Taliban if they ever come to power.

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^ And Zardari and Sharif will stay on to receive gold medals? :@:

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No one is saying that Zardari and Nawaz would get red carpet treatment if Taliban would occupy Pakistan (I wrote occupy because that is the only way they could come in power, if ever).

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^ Never!

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^Insha-Allah. My feeling is that, Pakistan ‘on whole’ would never surrender to Kharjees like Afghanistan did, but would fight back hard. I am certain that Sindh, especially Karachi would fight to the last and would win.

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^ InshaAllah...but what about those who raise slogans of independence for Sindh?

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What do you mean? ... Is Sindh under occupation? ... Is Sindh not independent already?

I believe Sindh is already independent and willingly a part of federation known as 'Pakistan'.

That is different matter that as part of federation, Sindh would like to have political independence within the border of Sindh. That political independence means right to govern by people who are permanent resident of Sindh and have no connection, affiliation or loyalty with any other parts of federation, so that they can represent Sindh first when it comes to defending interest of Sindh within federation.

That is necessary, as those who govern Sindh should have long term personal stakes in Sindh, would look at Sindh as their home (within federation), would prefer to get buried and retire in Sindh, and their children also consider Sindh as their home within federation wherever they are residing in the world, and whatever happens in future to Sindh, as then only they would think of Sindh’s interest first when governing Sindh and defending Sindh interest within Pakistan. Such right I believe all parts of federation (or provinces) should have.

[Same should be true for those governing Pakistan. For criteria of people governing Pakistan, you can replace Sindh with Pakistan in above paragraphs, and consider other parts of federation (provinces) as different world countries, and Pakistan as world].

Those who raise slogans of independence, I believe, till now, that is what they mean (according to my understanding). Anyhow, if corrupts controlling federation would not listen to their slogans than things may change, but that change if happens could happen in future.

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I was talking about JASQAM's demand that Sindh should secede from Pakistan.

As far as political independence is concerned, I understand it is already there. Pakistan People Party is ruling the country which originiated from Sindh. People of Sindh have undeniable right to govern their province, something that should be availble to people throughout the country. PPP, being the ruling party in Sindh and centre, should address all political grievances of the province.

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you are fully entitled to your opinion and I am not here to convince you otherwise......my objective is simply to make people think about the matter before the form an opinion.

what exactly is left?
when the economy is gone you have an exodus.
when social and moral rules are gone you have injustice, violence, killings......
sounds like Pakistan to me even without Taliban ideology.

when I consider a threat I speak of existing ills......not "potential ills and threats".
besides....mass scale killings, exodus, atrocities, injustice, violence et al already exist.....Taliban-ic ideology did not bring those about.

funny how everyone is so comfortable with predicting what Imran "would" do "if" this or that happened.......

basically your argument is based on what would happen if Taliban ideology were to prevail......problem is that you are completely ignoring what ails the nation today.

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The president of PTI is a big business Tycon,
What a story
Must read it .
Hashmi refuses taking money from ISI

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Double Shah
Islamabad - Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf President Makhdoom Javed Hashmi said on Monday that he had never taken any amount from Inter Services Intelligence (ISI).
**Talking to a private TV channel on Monday, he said that Muhammad Yousaf Advocate gave him Rs 187 million for investment in the business on 20 percent profit and he has all the receipts for giving him profit. All the transactions were made through bank. **
In this connection,
Kyun [Javed Hashmi vs Muhammad Yousaf Advocate] 26th Mar 2012 p2www.youtube.com

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I would say a stupid decision derived by emotions and far from ground reality, the same ground reality which have forced IK to make Bhinders, Tumans etc leaders of PTI...

An established fact that no matter how sincere JH or anyone may be, unless and until he have certian skill set, he cannot lead!!! sorry to say, JH does not have that charisma, he cannot run solo or should say cannot make audience listen to him!! I can assure you that he won't be having any control over the leadership or workers, we have seen him in similar situation where PML-N lost almost all the ground and the organizational chart went missing... if delivering speeches is the only thing required then tv actors might have been ruling the world from day one...

The right candidate for this slot would have been SMQ, which i feel is been neglected or is not seen alot since the joining of JH...

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Actually establishment wanted to make PML N weak . I am now seriously thinking that sending him jail was an establishment drama to hijack PML N but it failed due to return of NS .
Javed Hashmi leaves PML-N…

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/p480x480/407484_312631345434581_149267971770920_1039494_855110927_n.jpg

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Easy for someone living in the west to make such claims. Do you really think progress, which would bring modernity, would prevail in an intolerant Pakistan where taliban and co. are alive?

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yes....I do really think that.
I really do believe that corruption, from the top down, is a bigger problem than any other "potential" threat.

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You seem like an intelligent person, or at least have that facade, so you tell me how poverty would go down without investment by foreigners or the natives? Corruption is only one element, but stability through law & order is a huge element as who wants to invest in a place where they can’t get their return or the price to do it (insurance) is steep?

“Potential” threat? :hehe: People have been assassinated in power and you are talking about as if it is some far fetched reality. Perhaps, being a supporter of imran khan does suit your right.

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End of the story
http://www.samaa.tv/digital_images/210/2014-10-01/baghi-says-goodbye-to-pti-1412162333-6783.jpg
‘Baghi’ says goodbye to PTI](http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/01-Oct-2014/baghi-says-goodbye-to-pti)MULTAN: A senior politician Javed Hashmi has announced to quit Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) led by cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan. “I cannot remain the part of the political party which supports undemocratic forces,” Hashmi says while addressing a press conference Wednesday. …

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^ good. It’s time for this old turd to leave.