Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
He is not reliable at all.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Tell me who is reliable than?
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
how many time i have to quote that
have you read Dr Zakir Nayak
have you read Dr Israr Ahmad
have you read Ahmad Deedat
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Well More time i will ask u more time u people will Tell me the same thing.Main app logo Kaab se Kah raha hoo.Well we hve To follow the Taleem Of Anbiya.App shayaad os Imaan lanay ka Matlab hi nahi samjh Sakain.Imaan Lanay ke Jooz jo hai woh yea hai.
Allah
Anbiya
Malaika
Quran
Roz E Ikihraat
Anbiya Ke Darwazay Baand hoo gaye hai.yani abb Allah ke Taleem Abb ayee gaye nahi.Malaika Per Imaan Lanay ka matlab yea hai ke yea sab Allah ke Banaye hoye hai in main se ek bhi humhara Khuda nahi hoo sakta.Anbiya ke taleem Mukamaal hoo gaye thi.jo on per Books Nazil hoye sirf quran ke sab main tarmim Hoo gaye.Yani abb humhe ek kitaab per Chalna hai WOh Quran hai Quran se hi Humhe ROoz e Ikhraat per Imaan lana hoo Ga.Mohammad pbuh ke zamanay main hum hooty tu Yea Humhara Farz Tha Aur Imaan Ka Taqaza kE on se Khud Taleem Hasil karty.Lakin Muhammad PBUH humharay zamanay main nahi hai.Jo books in ke Taraf Mansoob ke Jaty hai Hum Wasooq se nahi Kah saktay ke Yea In ke Alfaz thai.Alfazoo ke Tasalsool main Tazaad hoo jaty hai jab woh Agay Barhtay hai.likhaza Na Koi Kitaab Jis main yea Kaha Jaye ke Hum nay hazoor ke Qool Mukhtalif loogo se soonay thai os ke yahaan Qalam band kar dia.Alfazaoo Ke tasalsool main tazad aur Insaan ke Zaat main Ikhtilafh ke Waja se hum yea nahi Kah saktay ke Woh hi Humharay Imaan ka joozo hai.Abb rah gaye EK Baat Woh hai Quran.main Barha yea Kah raha hoo ek sirf Quran hi Humharay Iman ka joozoo hai Aur WOhi Humhare Iman ke Jooziyaat.Yea Aisi Kitaab hai Jis Main Allah ke Tamam Qool agaye jo Is ko Hazarat e Insaan se Kahnay thai.Woh is nay Akhari bar Kahaye.Hazoor Ke sunnat per Humhe Amaal karna hai tu is Ka sahra bhi Humhe Quran se Laina hoo ga.
Jahaan Taak Logo ke Baat hai.Agar Hum kisi ko Shih Maan bhi lain Tu yea Humhara Apnay app per sab se Azeem zulum hoo ga.Kion ke Koi Bhi Insaan Iman ke liye Hoojaat nahi Hoo sakta.Dr zakir Naik ke Jahaan Taak Baaat Hai woh Ajeeb Philopsy Laya hai.Tamam Mazhaib Ka Comparison kar raha hoota hai yea Shih nahi hai.Yea apnay Elim ke Buniyaad per Kar sakta hai.Lakin is ka elim humhare liye Hoojaat nahi Hoo sakta.
Humhe On Tamam baatoon ko Imaan Ka jooz Bana hoo ga Jo quran main hai.
Quran app Ka Alim e Din Hai APp ka Master.
Jis din App nay yea samjh Lia ke Humhe Kisi insaan ko follow kar lia os din yaad Rakhiye ga Appnay mazhabi Paishwayaat ke Buniyaad Rakh de.Humhare Baroo nay Kitna Bara zoolom kia kE kuch Qool Jama kiye 300 saal ke Baad or os ko yea Kah dia ke Yea hazoor KE qool Thai.yani Mazhabi Paishwayaat ke Buniyaad rakh dee aur Na o Zoo Billah is KA rukh hazoor pbuh KE Taraf kar dia Yaad Rakhain Mazhabi Paishwayaat Quran ke rooh se Shirk hai.
Is liye Hazoor PBUH nay Apni Hayaat E tayaba ke bare main Koi Kitaab tahreer nahi ke Kia Hazoor PBUH nahi kar saktay Thai.os ke waja sAaf hai.Quran Ke Qanoon Ataal hai.Allah ke Taleem Atal hai.Jo kuch Hazoor ke Pass Wahi Hoota tha WOh sirf Quran tha.Sari Umaat e Muslim ko is ke Saay Talay Jama hoona tha.Agar Hazoor Koi Kitaab Tahrir Karty tu Humharay Paiwayaat os ke Matlaab bhi Ajeeb o Gharib Nikaal laty aur Mazhabi paishwayaat is ko Lay kar Ajeeb o Gharib Daatain bana Daity.Jo App daikhtay hai.Jo rool Model Allah nay Humhe Quran main dia tha Hum os ko follow nahi karty.Quran bhi Paisay parda chala Jata Aur hum Allah ke Aboodiyaat Ikhtiyaar karnay Ke Baje Hazoor ke Karty.Aur is Woh Boohraan Paida hoo jata jis se Hazart e Insaan nahi nikaal sakta.
Main mazhabi Paishwayaat ke bare main baad main post karoon ga
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Hey someone who says Hijab is not part of Islam is way out of Islam if you ask me. Why? Allah states in the Quran about the Hijab so brother, tell Ghamdi what he thinks about Hijab. Prove this wrong?
Anyways, this is on the basis of what I have read, I don't know him personally nor do I know any scholar who goes against him personally. Purely on the basis of what I have understood by reading about him.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Authentic Scholars who follow Islam as it was understood by the Sahabas and the pious predecessors not called modern doctors like Ahmed Ghamdi.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
This is strange, i think there is a clear ayat which uses the word "Should". Is he extrapolating the meaning of should?
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Read for your self. Think and then decide. This is the web site of Dr. Khalid Zaheer. (He is a student of Mr Ghamidi. )
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Read for yourself. Think and then decide. This is the web site of Dr. Khalid Zaheer. (He is a student of Mr Ghamidi. )
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Well Mr Khalid Zaheer as a student of Mr. Ghamidi has clearly stated that:
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In my opinion, all future events mentioned in ahadith are likely to happen, depending upon the authenticity of their reports, but since we can't be sure that the prophet, alaihissalaam, actually mentioned them, we will not call them a part of our faith
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Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Also if you through his website, you will see that he doesn't believe in the concept of tawassul and he says that Sufis are not with Islamic teachings when Imam Ghazali was a sufi and many prominent scholars were sufis.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Wht do u think about suffiazm?U know this tree(sufism)comes from outside of islam?Yea islami sarzamin per ajnabee Pooda hai.Islam aur sufims ka Ek dosray se koi Talooq hi nahi.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Please dont talk if you dont know. Sufism is not a sect or seperate religion but its an Islamic science just like other sciences such as scince of Quran and Hadees. Sufism is proved from Quran and Hadees and most of the great Islamic Scholars were also Sufis such as Imam Ahmed, Imam Ghazali, Shah Waliullah, Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jailani, Mujaddad Alfe Sani, Imam Nawawi, Mullah Ali Qari etc etc.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
[FONT=Times New Roman]Tasawwuf is a branch of Islamic knowledge which focuses on the spiritual development of the Muslim.
[FONT=Times New Roman]Allah [FONT=Times New Roman]sent His final messenger, Prophet Muhammad [FONT=Times New Roman], as a source of knowledge for the entire ummah. He [FONT=Times New Roman]was the fountain of Quran, Hadith, tafsir, rhetoric, fiqh, and so on. After the Prophet, the scholars of this ummah carried and propagated each of these branches of knowledge. Because no one person can attain the perfection of the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman], who single handedly assumed all of these roles, various branches of the Islamic sciences developed. For example, Imam Abu Hanifah preserved the science of fiqh and after him thousands of scholars continued in his footsteps. Hence these scholars preserved the fiqh of the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]. Similarly Imam Bukhari and the other famous scholars of Hadith, preserved the words of the Prophet. The scholars of tajweed preserved the recitation of the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]. And, the scholars of Arabic grammar preserved the language of the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman].
[FONT=Times New Roman]Along these lines, the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]was the model of spirituality for the world. His God-consciousness, deep spirituality, acts of worship, and love for Allah [FONT=Times New Roman]were preserved and propagated by an Islamic science called Tasawwuf. The aim of the scholars of this science was purification of the heart, and development of consciousness of Allah [FONT=Times New Roman]through submission to the shariah and sunnah.
[FONT='Times New Roman']How is Tasawwuf Related to Sufism? ****
[FONT=Times New Roman]Studying the life of the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman], the scholars who propagated the science of tasawwuf understood that a requisite for approaching Allah [FONT=Times New Roman]was abandonment of the common pursuits of the world. They often wore wool because of its simplicity and low cost. In Arabic the word for wool is suf and thus, those who wore it became known as the Sufis. Another possible derivation of the word comes from the root word safa, which means "to clean." Because the scholars of tasawwuf focused on cleansing the heart, they later became known as the Sufis.
[FONT='Times New Roman']What Do Our Scholars Say About Tasawwuf? ****
[FONT=Times New Roman]Traditional Islamic scholars have accepted Tasawwuf as an important branch of Islamic learning, so long as it remains within the guidelines of the Shariah and emphasizes following the Sunnah of the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman].
[FONT='Times New Roman']I Have Heard That Sufis Teach Praying At [FONT='Times New Roman']Graves*[FONT='Times New Roman'], Dancing, Music, And Other Innovations?***
[FONT=Times New Roman]It is true that there have been, and currently are, people who have deviated from the teachings of tasawwuf, thus misrepresenting this science. This is not unique to tasawwuf. Our history is full of examples of people who called themselves scholars of tafsir, or hadith while misrepresenting the essence of these sciences. Each of the Islamic sciences is interlinked and bounded by its sister sciences. For example, a scholar of tafsir cannot interpret the Quran by contradicting the hadith. Similarly a true shaykh of tasawwuf (sufism) never breaks even the smallest tenets of the shariah or the sunnah. Rather, he sees them as the means of his progress towards his Lord. In fact, he prefers death over falling into even a minute sin.
[FONT=Times New Roman]I saw a holy man on the seashore wounded by a tiger.
No medicine could relieve his pain; He suffered much,
but he nevertheless constantly thanked God, the most high, saying,
"Praise be to Allah that I have fallen into a calamity and not into sin."
[FONT='Times New Roman']If Not All Sufis Are Authentic How Can I Judge Which To Learn From?****
[FONT=Times New Roman]Many of our scholars have addressed this question by listing the "signs" of a true shaykh. Needless to say the common principle has always been submission to the shariah, by following the teachings of one of the four schools of fiqh, and a complete submission to the inner and the outer of the sunnah. This is based on the idea that the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]is the nearest and most God conscious of Allah's creation. His daily acts are an exemplification of how the most God-conscious of all of creation lived his life. For example, the Prophet's treating others with kindness, soft speech, humility, preference for white clothing, growing of a lengthy beard, use of the tooth stick, etc are all intentional acts of service to Allah [FONT=Times New Roman]. If someone lacks these sunnan, while claiming they can help bring you closer to Allah, know that they will eventually lead you to a dead end.
[FONT='Times New Roman']What Is The Goal Of The Student Of Tasawwuf?****
[FONT=Times New Roman]The goal is complete submission to the shariah and sunnah in order to attain purification of the heart and soul and to develop a true, deep, and lasting connection with Allah [FONT=Times New Roman].
[FONT='Times New Roman']How Can A Shaykh Assist In These Goals?****
[FONT=Times New Roman]A shaykh of tasawwuf spends years in training in order to develop his character, mannerisms, daily schedule, outer being, acts of worship, and knowledge under the guidance of a spiritual master. They learn the essence of worship and practical implications of abandonment of the mundane life of this world from those who are models of god-consciousness. Further, they often spend years mastering the Islamic sciences of Hadith, Quran, tafsir, fiqh, etc. Each aspect of their training further connects them through chains of scholars to the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]who, of course, was sent to connect creation to their Lord.
[FONT=Times New Roman]When you enter the company of such a shaykh, their knowledge and extensive experience allows them to assess your spiritual state and hence, advise you on the best "medicine" to cure the diseases of your heart. Just as a doctor is trained to cure physical ailments, so the scholars of tasawwuf treat the maladies of the diseased heart.
[FONT='Times New Roman']I Thought That All One Needs Is The Quran And The Sunnah?****
[FONT=Times New Roman]It is true that the Quran and the Sunnah are sufficient. However, at the same time it is also true that a teacher is required to master any subject. If the Quran was sufficient, then Allah [FONT=Times New Roman]could have easily sent the book without a messenger. However, he sent the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]as a model of the Quran so that people could directly learn from his example. This then became the method of learning for each of the Islamic sciences. For example, each hadith that Imam Bukhari compiled in his collection of hadith is directly linked to the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]through a continuous chain of narrators. Thus, each person in the chain must have learned from someone and must be able to state who that person was. Similar requirements are present in other branches of Islamic science as well. The science of tasawwuf is no exception.
[FONT='Times New Roman']Is It Mandatory That I Learn And Develop My Spirituality Under A Shaykh?****
[FONT=Times New Roman]The juristic scholars of the ummah have ruled that taking a spiritual guide is a sunnah. That is, it is not mandatory, however, it is the way of the Prophet [FONT=Times New Roman]. However, according to the scholars of this ummah achieving the aims of tasawwuf are mandatory. For example, purifying the heart from pride, rectifying one's character, etc are essential to ones religion. Thus, if one can achieve these goals on their own, they may. However, if one tries and continually fails, it is highly recommended that he seek the assistance of a spiritual doctor.
[FONT='Times New Roman']What Are The Responsibilities Of The Murid (Student) Of The Shaykh?****
[FONT=Times New Roman]The murid takes an allegiance with his shaykh seeking Allah's forgiveness for past sins, shortcomings, and mistakes, and pledging to establish the shariah and sunnah in his life. The shaykh then assigns certain daily exercises of dhikr (remembrance of Allah) to the student in order that they attract the blessings of Allah [FONT=Times New Roman]. Each student has a set daily regimen of Quranic recitation and dhikr, which, if done diligently leads to rapid progress.
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Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
I m challenging Any body in the world.Anybody who s found of sufism prove that is totally islamic.Ek thread Banaoo jahaan sufism ko discuss karty hai.I will prove tht isnt islamic.If u want to go with me to meet any Buzarg i will prove in front of him.tht isnot islamic.Daikh laina kaisy bhaag jaty hai.Rizaat se jo kashf o Ilham in ko Hasil hoota hai main prove kar doon ga k woh ek fun.Himmat hai Baat karnay ke Ajaooo
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
First of all relax buddy, dont need to get emotional.
I dont need to many another thread, its your claim so you can go ahead. And secondly all the scholars of Sunni Islam consider it be a science just like other sciences and there is Ijma on it. That is enough proof. If you wish to go outside the Ijma, go ahead.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Now u r Run away beta i m not emotional mere Elim O burhan ke taqaat hoo gaye jo Kisi Buzarg ko milty hi nahi yea Essayaat hinduism Aur Yahdooiyaat ke ek branch hai.Now in foreign countries like USA CANADA ...........Germany france.its become a fun app bhi aisay baan saktay hoo u hve to do alot practice Yea is ko abb Illusion kahtay hai.Jis ke liye Abb woh science ka bhi sahra laty hai.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Rofl and your Ilm or Burhan ki taqat, l0l, you are a funny dude. You have no idea what you are saying.
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
I challenge you! You collect all the mullas! Just one scientist will prove that all religions are man made!
Re: Javed Ahmed Ghamdi
Yea i Agree with tht But Quran is the only Book which is safe and Protected by Allah if u want to follow islam u hve To study and Understand Din which hve mention in quran.