jaadoo aur its effect

Redvelvet, these "isharas" are not for normal people like you and me. These are only understood by people with roohaniyat knowledge. THey are not allowed to disclose.

Sargecandy is right when he says that a REAL Pir / Wali will not tell you who it is that has done black magic on you... only rarely will they tell you this ....and contrary to popular belief on here, they do NOT take money for getting rid of black magic! If a "pir" asks for money, you know he's a conman!

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The Hisab thing is common among different societies. It is based on Aloom that were learnt by Arabs, Jews, Greeks and Chinese scholars through research. The Taweez with small squares and numbers inside which are given by many mosques in Pakistan are also given by Chinese and Jewish. If you sum numbers across their lines, the total will be same. Another is Naqoosh thing. All these are purely based on academic research.

Other kinds of Taweez are that have Ayats from Quran. Nothing else.

Spiritual healing or Roohaniyat is totally different concept.

All of the above have worked on patients in different scenarios.

Okay, so let's say that the roohani people don't disclose who has done black magic on you. How will the victim be able to warn others that they should be careful around a particular person who is involved in black magic? What if the person doing the black magic is one who is always jealous of others and is a member of your family. Shouldn't relatives be warned of this person? Isn't that something to consider?

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I haven't read all the responses, and to some extent I agree that most people blame Jadoo for simple normal misfortunes in life. Having misfortune is normal and it is human. No one is perfect, no one is successful 100% of the time, and even if there is a PATTERN of misfortune, chances are it is your fault. Maybe you're making some bad choices in life.

However.

We do have an aunt in our family that has picked certain key members in my family to do jadoo on. I normally would not believe it, and didn't until I saw with my own eyes and smelled with my own nose the kind of junk she was cooking in her kitchen. She had weird ingredients and she has been for sure followed by family members to a hindu jadoo-gar in Karachi where she goes and gets taweez's and learns her recipes for disaster.

How did we know. For a period of a year, a family member who is normally fine and successful, just had a number of endless problems. It was such a bad year for him. Likewise, many of us, myself included, suffered from a lot of weird problems that year. Like for ex. I was a straight A student, and that year I kept failing exams left and right which were EASY. It just wasn't making sense, and I just figured I was finally burned out and I just needed a break from school.

Turned out when we went to some people in the community who can do ishtikharas, that this lady was cooking up recipes against us.

Now, how effective it really is, who knows, and for many years we battled with the sheer psychology of it. Because the minute you find out someone is really doing jadoo on you, you begin to blame EVERY problem for them including problems they're not even causing. It causes you to enter a stage of paranoia. So, now we've adjusted I think. We've all come to accept she will continue casting spells, and we just hold tight to our prayers. Since we've been praying, thankfully, her jadoo is not having the same type of effect.

In one situation, she supposedly cast a REALLY NASTY spell which was meant to cause a death, which backfired because of all our prayers. She ended up in near respiratory failure from a really bad pneumonia. Her husband who aides her in these things, has now lost his mind and is now a psychiatric patient.

Not sure even know how true all this is, but I did see weird ingredients in her kitchen, smelled the smell of nasty potions, and can testify that her bahu, who was a very good childhood friend of mine has caught her cooking up this stuff and has tried to protest it to no avail. She gets beaten and threatened if she opens her mouth about it. However she has disclosed to some of us what she's seen.

Why is she doing this? Good question. She lives in our family home in a portion of the house, and we are in the process of selling, but are unable to find buyers. If sold, we have promised her family half of the profit, although they never invested in the property, never paid rent on it either....so they don't deserve it. But out of our goodness, they will still get half. However the half they will get will barely be enough to purchase a decent apartment in Karachi. They have 2 sons who are totally beqaar and don't generate enough income, and one of the sons is bullying his parents about living arrangements as well and refuses to contribute any money to a new apartment (doesn't have much to contribute anyway).

Whole thing is a mess, but yes, this is a real situation we are going through. So she keeps us all in jadoo, we think, so we don't sell the property. Eventually, she would like a full take over of the house. Our family there has bought another property, but refuses to move out, because the aalims we go to have told us that she WILL move into the entire house and then there will be no way to remove her family from the house. They already tell everyone they own the entire building (which was incidentally, how my friend was duped into marrying their son - her family believed the owned the property and family business, while actually our family owns it all, but we just keep them because we know they dont have anywhere to go).

Great to have freeloaders in the family.

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Oh and here's what is interesting. I am actually a super nice person in real life, whether people believe that or not. So last time I was in Karachi, I obviously visited my family there. I did visit her as well, and was perfectly nice to her and acted like I knew nothing. But moreover, I treated her with genuine respect. I mean, look, she's doing something ridiculously stupid and she will end up paying for it, but she is ignorant and some dude who teaches her this jadoo has her paying him and coming to him for all kinds of ingredients and concoctions and so her mind has gone mad in greed and ignorance...

It's more of a mental health problem, IMHO, and just like you can't fault a retard for being a retard, I can't fault her for being an idiot either.

After I made that visit to Karachi, I haven't had the kinds of problems I've been having before. I routinely ask the people who screen for her jadu for us and recommend prayers to us, and they insist that they don't see any of her effects on me. It's like, she isn't even targeting me anymore.

shrugs Who knows.

It doesn't work like that! What would warning other people do? How are you going to stop that person from doing black magic again and again? More often than not it's a member of the family doing the black magic anyway.
If you want to confront the person doing the black magic then by all means, you can go ahead.... but this would achieve nothing... it would infact hinder you being cured of the black magic
It is always better to forgive.... if, with Allah (SWT)'s blessing, a Wali Allah is sorting out your black magic, then should you not just do shukar?? Why the need to bad mouth that person in society? They will get their punishment from Allah.... it's not up to the individual to give.

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I don't know how true that all is. The originator of the jadoo in our case was openly identified and confirmed to be conducting jadoo in our home in Karachi.

There was no issue about that.

Sick, sad, scary, and sinful. Shudders

I was wondering about informing relatives....about the family member doing black magic. Bad-mouthing? You mean gossiping? I don't consider it "bad-mouthing" or gossiping if you're giving out information with the intent to protect your loved ones. It's the same as in rishta purposes......if you KNOW something seriously negative or harmful about a rishta candidate (information that you're being kept in the dark about)......you should inform the family so that they can take steps to protect themselves. Bad-mouthing is taking it a little too far, I think. One doesn't have to sit with relatives and trash talk the the person doing black magic for hours. But could even give a simple warning to be careful around this person......be regular in prayers.......recite your 3 Quls, etc.

Dua k saath saath......you also need to take appropriate action. Like the hadith where the Prophet SAWS says to tie your camel first and then put your faith in Allah. Yes, Allah will help.......but there's nothing wrong with gently advising loved ones to be careful around a particular individual. That's just common sense.

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A question..will you ever do jadoo for your self?? like for exams..or rishta? or job?

That's because everyone knew about her. Did anyone ever confront her though? Even so, you said she continued to do the magic.... but in the end you always get your punishment in this world... as did she

Normally, if it is someone in the family and other family members are aware of it - vey few actually confront that member ...what does it achieve in the end? it wouldn't make that person stop, would it? It probably does become an addiction for them.

If a Pir has not told you who the person doing the black magic is, then it is for a reason ....and if they do tell you who it is but also tell you not to do or say anything, then you have to abide by this. If you go and take matters in your own hand, then this can have an undesired effect

And land yourself in hell? Black magic is gunnah, Kinzz. And not a small one either. It's counted among the major sins. To engage in black magic in ignorance is one thing.........but to do it on purpose when you are fully aware that it's wrong.......is truly messed up.

Whatever you want, you ask Allah. You might fulfill your world wishes by resorting to magic, but be in big trouble with Allah. It's not a smart bargain.

oh..im not talking about black magic...im talking taweez thingy,which is called white magic ( if im not wrong )...and most of the time taveez are written with Qurani ayats...

Bad mouthing / gossiping / giving out information / back biting- it's all subjective....
Yes, by all means warn other family members.... but what I am saying is that if you have been told not to by the Pir who is getting rid of the black magic, then you shouldn't say anything (there are always reasons behind this). If there are no such restrictions, then by all means warn who you want!

Well said

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And land yourself in hell? Black magic is gunnah, Kinzz. And not a small one either. It's counted among the major sins. To engage in black magic in ignorance is one thing.........but to do it on purpose when you are fully aware that it's wrong.......is truly messed up.

Whatever you want, you ask Allah. You might fulfill your world wishes by resorting to magic, but be in big trouble with Allah. It's not a smart bargain.

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But i guess it would be ok if you want your mother in law turned in to a homosexual Platypus... most of the girls would agree with me here.

lol.... "white magic".....

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^ mcp :smack:

yes..i have heard about white magic.. :S

You're talking about getting a general taweez just to maybe "help you out" a bit....

Just pray and ask from Allah.... :)