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it’s called the “pre-conceive notion” my dear:)
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:k: well said..
Muslims everywhere in the world should just come out, held a rally and denouce this attack and other attacks from now on.
If they can come out in streets and say Iraq is bad, Afghanistan is bad then this is bad too and also inhumane.
Can’t have double standards.
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I dont doubt at all that this is wrong. Muslims do need to tell the world that, I think the reassusrance makes non muslims feel more secure.
Whatever else war criminals like Bush and Blair do does not justify some idiot bombing a bus.
But then again you think of the tens of thousands of Iraqis who have died since those two morons started a war that is proven beyond a doubt to be based on lies....
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all this talk about iraq and afghanistan is irrelelvant and diversionary at this time. do not feel so insecure as to think that if you have suffering of your own you must mention it at a time when others are suffering otherwise it would be forgotten.
i hate it when people come in after a shia mosque is bombed and say bs like while this is wrong, shias shouldnt do this or that.
if you really are concerned about root causes or whatnot, discuss it when people are willing to listen.
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Wooa man .. Muslims everywhen in the world should just come out .. i remembering only a maximum of 7 countires joinning the coalition in the attack against iraq .. the rst of the 200 or so countries did not want to attack . The whole world knew Iraq was “Bad” . Heck even the UN did not allow it .. THE UN .. THE WORLD POLICE did not allow it . USA went ahead and did it . Who could stop them ..
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You don’t care .. look at you talk.
exactly .. no one does .. no one cares . Its every man for himself . Thats what islam teaches us right. Not to care if someone elses parents die in front of their eyes. Your quite a sick person.
No one gives a damn about other muslims. Well just just say you see a news where it says american trrops kill 3 mujahedeen . Nothing happens to you . nothing happens to us . Were naive , want to be naive , can’t be bothered . Too much to do . have to watch Batman Begins, gotaa write my girld friend a mail . oh man got no time for Isha , i’ll miss “friends” on TV ..
no one does care ..
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First of all, if you have a position, atleast have the intellectual honesty to stick to it through a discussion, unless ofcourse you change your mind. Playing innocent by “when and where?” is really pretty lame. And then AQ uncle has to butt in with his cheap-ass sarcastic comment, because otherwise his lunch doesn’t get digested properly.
Lajawab, you are the one who brought in atrocities in Iraq again and again in this discussion. No one disputes the deaths and murder going on in Iraq now, or since early 1990’s. When you bring that in a discussion about killings in UK, what is your purpose? Do you think these two are linked? Are your views solely limited to condemnation in words. There are way too many discussions going on about the bomb blasts in London, so I may have missed it, but I didn’t see you categorically and unconditionally condemning the blasts in UK. Did you? Instead, here is what I read…
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Nasty read my post again.
Your reply does not make any sense, especailly in ragards to my post.
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You said it man! :k: It is not intelligent. It is a vicious cycle. How can you have different parties work towards peace when it is against the agenda of some mischievous groups. This kind of unrest helps them accomplish their goals..and we are fking idiots who are justifying them.
You are talking about world peace, heck we can’t have peace in this thread…and these people are supposedly educated. It’s time to take a stand for sure! and it doesn’t look like it’s gonna be our generation.
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Faisal: You call those justifications? How can you equate my statements and opinions as justifications for the London blasts?
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So, put simply, what is your point? What is the relationship between Iraq and UK bombings and why do you keep bringing it in this discussion? Be clear in what you are saying now.
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I think way too many pakis are on their high horses these last couple of days demanding condemnation from people, who the fk are they to demand anything?
I don't think anyone in any frame of mind is happy when innocents get killed, I don't see Faisal popping into every thread opened up in WA about innocent Iraqi's getting butchered and condemning, to order, the US terror. Maybe he did I don't know there are too many of those threads about unfortunately.
So no rationalisations, but at least have a little thought on what you think this 'group' that carried out the attacks had to gain.
What would Muslims gain from this? The western governments gains, the never-ending war machine gains, isn’t it a little too convenient for this ‘group’ to be playing directly into their hands?
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^ What have these freaks ever done that benefits Muslims? They are murdering idiots who have no clue that their actions are setting their cause back decades. What did they have to gain? Just like Palestinians who have used terror as a weapon - NOTHING. That religious extremists think this fairly new tactic will further their cause is the big friggin' mystery, not some blame displacment, head-in-the-sand conspiracy theory you want to plant in every thread on gupshup.
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Why does it frighten you so?
A 'group' carry out an attack on their 'enemy' knowing it will not benefit them and indeed be detrinemtal to them. The British almost pulled troops out of Iraq, this was common knowledge. It just doesn't make sense for these attacks to be carried out In London?
Am I missing something?