Israeli terrorists kill schoolkids! / 13-year old girl [Merged]

I see, too bad these world leaders can’t access your infinite wisdom otherwise we would have resolved this conflict a long time ago. :hehe:

Your idea that both parties can live “happily ever after” is naive.

"SO does it really make sense to talk about GDPs and other economic stats, when we have other problems to solve?!

You have any suggestions to share how to stop those killings?!"

50% unemployment in the territories sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Unemployed people are historically frustrated and violent. Employed people who can feed their families have hope and a future, and can embrace peace.

At this point I have no hope that the parties left on their own will ever find peace . Therefore each side should call for a ceasefire, and should enforce the ceasefire. UN observers should then be deployed in huge numbers, and a 5 member panel assembled to enter into binding arbitration. One member from the US, one from the EU, one from the UN, and one each from the PA and Isreal. The majority vote on the detailed peace plan by this panel will be binding and non-negociable.

The UN will assemble a vast multinational force to enforce the terms of the agreement. Period, end of conflict.

Seminole and UTD

Regardless of what Britain was proposing, the Jews felt betrayed by Britain in light of the Balfour Declaration and turned to the USA for support after Britain issued a white paper in 1939 that restricted Jewish immigration into Palestine. When President Harry S. Truman took office, he made clear that his sympathies were with the Jews and accepted the Balfour Declaration, explaining that it was in keeping with former President Woodrow Wilson's principle of "self determination."

The British were smart terminated it's proposal and pushed it towards the United Nations.

However, it was your President Truman on the eve of Yom Kippur on October 4 1946 who issued a statement indicating United States support for the creation of a "viable Jewish state."

Therefore on May 14 1948, 6:11 p.m. eastern standard time: The United States recognizes Israel on a de facto basis. The White House issues the following statement: "This Government has been informed that a Jewish state has been proclaimed in Palestine, and recognition has been requested by the provisional government thereof. The United States recognizes the provisional government as the de facto authority of the State of Israel."

On May 15, 1948, the Arab states issued their response statement and Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq attack Israel.

On January 31 1949: The United States recognizes Israel on a de jure basis.

And you say that Israel wasn't created by the USA!

With your logic and level of education, Macdonalds was invented in Pakistan and Bush is Afro American?

sholay your little Israel 101 lesson left out that the UN resolution gave the approval for the creation of the Jewish state of Israel.

After the holocaust the proposal for a Jewish Homeland in the land called Palestine was supported by much of the international community and they voted on Resolution 181 which called for the establishment of an independent Jewish State in Palestine. The United Nations passed Resolution 181 giving the go ahead for Israel’s creation. The British Mandate ended at midnight May 14th and as we know Israel declared Independence on May 14th and was attack by its Arab neighbors who were collectively defeated by Israel in less than a years time.

UTD

What you conveniently missed out was beyond the UN Resolution it was Chaim Weizmann who persuaded the British government to issue a statement favoring the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine in the first instance. This was, in part, payment to the Jews for their support of the British against the Turks during World War I.

It was Britain and the United States who established the "Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry" who in turn refered it to the UN with recommendations that Palestine not be dominated by either Arabs or Jews. It was the Americans who recommended that full Jewish immigration be allowed into Palestine; and that two autonomous states be established with a strong central government to control Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and the Negev, the southernmost section of Palestine.

British, Arab, and Jewish reactions to the recommendations were not favorable. Like I said, it was your President Truman who instructed the State Department to support the U.N. plan. On November 29, 1947, the partition plan was passed in the U.N. General Assembly.

So you see. America did create Israel, using the UN as a cover, as always!

Getting back to the original topic of this thread, there is an update to the news story of the Israeli army officer.
Soldier arrested over girl’s shooting](http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11201068%255E1702,00.html)

October 27, 2004

ISRAELI military police today arrested an army officer accused of repeatedly shooting a 13-year-old Palestinian girl at point-blank range to make sure she was dead as his soldiers pleaded with him to stop.

A preliminary hearing by army commanders cleared the officer of wrongdoing, but during further investigation by military police he gave conflicting testimony prompting his interrogators to arrest him today, military officials said.

He was not immediately charged, they said.

Soldiers fired at the girl, Iyman Hams, as she approached a military observation post near the Rafah refugee camp in the Gaza Strip on October 5, suspecting she was planting a bomb. The girl’s family said she was on her way to school when she was shot.

Soldiers from the unit later told Israeli media that the officer, whose name has not been released, walked up to the girl after she was hit, and then riddled her bleeding body with a burst of automatic fire, in an outlawed practice known as “verifying the kill”.

It is not known whether the girl was dead when he shot her.

The army’s southern region commander, Major General Dan Harel, said on October 15 he found no “unethical” behaviour by the officer or his soldiers in the shooting.

The accused officer had said that as he approached the girl’s body, he came under fire from Palestinian gunmen at least 300m away, then shot at the ground to deter their fire, a military official said at the time of the first inquiry. A soldier in an observation tower believed the shots were aimed at the girl’s body, the official said.

The official could not explain why the officer shot into the ground rather than at the source of the fire.

Palestinian hospital officials said the girl was shot at least 15 times, mostly in the upper body.

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
^ Read up on your history, you don't even know how the state of Israel was created. It was not by the US.

Every country in the Middle East was 'created' by the west. By your definition none of them have a right exist.
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Do you know history sir?! I'm pretty sure you believe that Israel was there all times! Isn't that the case and blood sucking barbaric Palestinians took hold on it!

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*Originally posted by Faisal: *

Palestinian hospital officials said the girl was shot at least 15 times, mostly in the upper body. [/list]
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Oh my lord and OG meant those IDF***s have moral!

The mid east conflict will never end till both sides unite, either side won't stop resisting.

I hear that Iran may be next. Israel should be ready to face dire consequences if it intends to target Iran’s nuclear installations. Iran should also give up its hardline stance or they'll face the same conseq. like Iraq.

So here’s the update on the investigation.

Premeditated murder basically.

"Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child

Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing

A tape recording of radio exchanges between soldiers involved in the incident, played on Israeli television, contradicts the army’s account of the events and appears to show that the captain shot the girl in cold blood.

The official account claimed that Iman was shot as she walked towards an army post with her schoolbag because soldiers feared she was carrying a bomb.

But the tape recording of the radio conversation between soldiers at the scene reveals that, from the beginning, she was identified as a child and at no point was a bomb spoken about nor was she described as a threat. Iman was also at least 100 yards from any soldier.

Instead, the tape shows that the soldiers swiftly identified her as a “girl of about 10” who was “scared to death”.

The tape also reveals that the soldiers said Iman was headed eastwards, away from the army post and back into the refugee camp, when she was shot.

Watchtower: “A girl of about 10, she’s behind the embankment, scared to death.”

A few minutes later, Iman is shot in the leg from one of the army posts.

The watchtower: “I think that one of the positions took her out.”

The company commander then moves in as Iman lies wounded and helpless.

Captain R: “I and another soldier … are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill … Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her … I also confirmed the kill. Over.”

Witnesses described how the captain shot Iman twice in the head, walked away, turned back and fired a stream of bullets into her body. Doctors at Rafah’s hospital said she had been shot at least 17 times.

On the tape, the company commander then “clarifies” why he killed Iman: “This is commander. Anything that’s mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it’s a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over.”

The army’s original account of the killing said that the soldiers only identified Iman as a child after she was first shot. But the tape shows that they were aware just how young the small, slight girl was before any shots were fired.
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