Israeli terrorists kill schoolkids! / 13-year old girl [Merged]

Society Pakistan & World Affairs
1

The Israeli army yesterday suspended an officer who is accused of firing up to 20 bullets into a 13-year-old Palestinian as she lay on the ground after having been shot from an army outpost.
Another schoolgirl died yesterday after being shot while sitting at her school desk.

The deaths were in the southern Gaza Strip, some miles away from an ongoing army operation which have seen more than 100 Palestinians killed, including many civilians.

The Israeli army suspended the platoon commander when several soldiers threatened to refuse to serve under him if he was not removed. The soldiers told Israeli media that the officer ignored warnings that a person approaching an army outpost last week was a schoolgirl.

After she was shot, he approached Imam al Hamas, 13, as she lay on the ground and fired two bullets at her body before emptying the contents of his rifle magazine into her, the soldiers said.

The second schoolgirl, Ghadeer Mokheimer, 10, died of injuries sustained on Tuesday at her UN-run school in Khan Yunis.

It was the second time in recent weeks that a schoolgirl had been killed at her desk by Israeli gunfire, said Peter Hansen, head of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, UNRWA.

“That two young children have been shot and killed, sitting at their desks in UNRWA schools in the last month is horrific … schools should be havens of peace,” he said.

Israeli terrorists kill schoolchildren

Wow brave israeli squatter terrorists use 20 bullets to kill a schoolkid must be so brave of them and also killing 10 year olds sitting at there desks.

Just shows the sickness of the cancer called israel and anyone that supports this terrorist state!

2

Besides Israeli terrorists can we use the words Radical Jews or Judio fascist for these murderers?

I guess these pro Israelis won’t like these words but they have no problem using the same words for Muslims.

3

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Agent Smith: *
Besides Israeli terrorists can we use the words Radical Jews or Judio fascist for these murderers?

I guess these pro Israelis won’t like these words but they have no problem using the same words for Muslims.
[/QUOTE]

"The Israeli army suspended the platoon commander when several soldiers threatened to refuse to serve under him if he was not removed. "

Apparently this was instantly viewed as a crime by his peers. An individual committing a horrible crime.

It doesn't seem like a widely supported movement. So that's probably why the group doesn't get termed collectively as Judeo-fascists.

4

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by storch: *
It doesn't seem like a widely supported movement. So that's probably why the group doesn't get termed collectively as Judeo-fascists.
[/QUOTE]

Same goes for Muslim. 99% of Muslims don’t support any terror act. but Islam is still blamed as Radical religion.

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by storch: *
An individual committing a horrible crime.

[/QUOTE]

Then there must be hundreds of Individuals out here like him. Because this is not the first time an innocent child is murdered by these individuals/ If you combine all these individuals then its becomes a combined effort which does not make them any different from hammas or hizbullah.

5

It will be good then the next suicide bombing, that Hamas et al dissassociates themselves immediately from the bomber, there will be a sytemic process by the P.A. to prosecute those who aided and armed the bomber. And instead of a glorious martyrs parade, this individual will rightly be condemned in the Palestinian press.

6

Play with words all you want, bottom line is innocents are being killed.

7

Storch has a valid point. The individual in question did not do this upon orders. It was not the IDF plan to go out and kill innocents. His fellow soldiers condemned him, he was suspended pending investigation, and will be presumalby tried and punished if found guilty.

That process sort of defines civilization versus barbarity. Suicide bombers*intend* on killing innocents. They are revered by their supporters. They are not tried, they are held up as heros, and their families compensated.

In the process of trial and punishment you try to prevent the killing of futher innocents, while the declaration of martyrdom imples that God has approved of the killing of innocents, thus *more innocents * are likely to be killed.

If your brain simply stops at "innocents are dying", then you are stopping at the most shallow, pathetic, and stupid of observations. Most importantly your ignorance becomes tacit approval when the next round of suicide bombers become emboldened due to the lack of condemnation or punishment. You therefore become part of the murder. To date most of the condemnation is softly muttered, without vigor or horror. This "wink and a nod" condemnation is even worse. When the condemnation is accompanied by a lengthy treatice on "root causes", bombers use the rationalizations to further justify their actions.

So here is a way to help. Major Islamic figures must state that intentionally targeting civilians will send you straight to Hell. No martyrdom, no virgins, just shame for your families. Those assisting the murder of innocents should be excommunicated from Islam. No more prayer in mosques, no right to pilgrimages, no Islamic marriages. These Fatwas could be written tomorrow. Israel will punish a murderer of innocents, shouldn't Islam?

8

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
Israel will punish a murderer of innocents, shouldn't Islam?
[/QUOTE]

Not much significance to the punishment when the punisher itself continues to merrily commit the same crime. And with justification on top of that!

9

Israel will punish a murderer of innocent

dont make us laugh

straight from the israeli news media commenting on amnesty report on current intifada:

According to Amnesty, in most of the cases in which Palestinian children were killed by Israelis, the Israeli authorities did not conduct appropriate investigations.

The Head of the Legal Department of the IDF is quoted as having said at a meeting on January 16, 2001: “No army carries out investigations in warfare.” At another meeting that was held on May 14, 2002, another IDF representative is reported to have said: "I don’t need to investigate.
Crimes no punishment

Nice big imagination some people have that israel is democractic country which cares for human life which in reality is a complete joke!

10

According to Ohioguy, absolutely never has a single suicide bomber or his accomplices been investigated, indicted, punished or charged with a crime by any authority other than those who were attacked.

Never. Infact they are glorified.

And frankly that Intifada is not working out too well. Perhaps it should be stopped by the criminal Palestinian politicians who started it.

11

As the name implies "suicide bombers "; it means they are killed in action while killing, according to the freedom fighter, he went to heaven, and according to the Jew he went to hell. So where exactly do you want to try them, Heaven or Hell?
As far as them being hailed as heros, there is this age old saying
“one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter”. Ben Gurion, Ariel Sharon etc. they are both considered heros as well and they both started in the terrorism business.
:teary1: Tsk Tsk how soon do we forget.

12

Mind sharing with us how you try a dead man? Maybe it is possible in your fairy tale land where all evil is brought to justice and all the innocent are avenged :hehe:

13

"Mind sharing with us how you try a dead man."

Sure. You DO NOT have huge parades in the street for him. You treat his body, his memorial and honor like he was a paedophile, not a hero. It will do nothing to the dead, but the NEXT bomber will know that his family will be shamed, his name dishonored, and he will not be treated like a martyr, but like vermin. As I understand it, honor is a very highly valued commodity in the Arab world.

What's more, none of these bombers act alone. They are generally recruited, by an entire organization. The bombmaker never goes himself, he is to make bombs for the next one. The entire support system should be cast out from Islam by name. An Islamic court should try them and convict them of dishonoring Islam by killing innocents. They should no longer be entitled to an Islamic burial. They cannot remarry in the Islamic faith, they should be condemned as murderers who heap shame on Islam. Certainly these things could be done by the "religion of peace" no?

And AK47

The article you quote "Crimes no Punishment" was published in JEWISH newspaper! Funny, some editorial writer has the balls to speak out when things are wrong, calling for indictment of the IDF who commit crimes. The newspaper has the guts to print it. Other than writers for the Dawn who live in London, not much of the same going on in the Islamic world!

14

[QUOTE]
Other than writers for the Dawn who live in London, not much of the same going on in the Islamic world!
[/QUOTE]

Ardeshir Cowasjee lives in Karachi, Ayaz Amir in Chakwal and MP Bhandara runs Murree Brewery in Rawalpindi. The only one who lives in England is Irfan Hussein and its not exactly because of his views. Besides Dawn the Friday Times writers such as Najam Sethi and Khaled Ahmad are both based in Lahore. Khaled Ahmad used to teach at LUMS back in 94--95. Mariana Baabar a curageous journalist who was harrassed by the police during the Nawaz Sharif era is also in Islamabad.

15

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
"Mind sharing with us how you try a dead man."

Sure. You DO NOT have huge parades in the street for him. You treat his body, his memorial and honor like he was a paedophile, not a hero. It will do nothing to the dead, but the NEXT bomber will know that his family will be shamed, his name dishonored, and he will not be treated like a martyr, but like vermin. As I understand it, honor is a very highly valued commodity in the Arab world.
c world!
[/QUOTE]

I missed the part where the suicide bomber is investigated, charged and punished. Oh well.

You really think when a man's children are killed, his house bulldozed and brothers slaughtered, all by foreign scum who invaded and trampled all over his country, he gives a **** about what happens after he dies?

You are right about the honor part, and there is no greater honor than dying for Islam.

16

Good work :k:

Expose these spoon fed armchair analyst guppies for what they really are.

17

Of course Israel had to try and diffuse the situation very quickly in order to fool the world, because they got caught red handed. It's called the art of illusion. Ask David Blain.

'Commit a henious crime and then act swiftly under false pretences, hoping public will take the bait'.

I doubt he has been suspended (most probably outposted to the Nuclear Arms Dept or something), until the heat dies down, then back to the slaughtering.

Israel are barbaric and always will be.

18

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by skhan: *
You are right about the honor part, and there is no greater honor than dying for Islam.
[/QUOTE]
How does blowing yourself up while taking out as many Jews as possible equate to 'dying for Islam'?

19

:halo:

20

UTD

I must commend you on your last post.

You definitely work alongside Dubya, cuz only you and him can change the text to suit your whims.

Next time you'll most probably paste that I said you were a Pakistani????????????

Keep it up my son, keep it up.