Israeli forces kill 12 Palestinians in Gaza raid

USResident · June 28, 2007, 12:26am

Re: Israeli forces kill 12 Palestinians in Gaza raid

This is exactly the view most Americans have of Palestinians. The peace process was a joke, and the understanding was that the Palestinians wouldn’t be given a viable state, but a region under Israeli control. If indeed this is not the understanding, then people are ignorant of what the end result was of the last round of negotiations on what was proposed to the Palestinians.

Israel’s right to exist is tied to Palestine’s. That is the point of view many contemporary Muslims have, and most Westerners reject. The very fact that the Israeli state is recognized, while there is a question regarding the status of a Palestinian state speaks to this duplicity. So suggestions that the official Western stance on the situation is some how even handed of “fair” is first class rubbish.

Israel’s stated goal was the elimination of this group, and all who support it…which would imply Gaza and a good chunk of the West Bank. There is a drastic difference between what is said and what is necessary to accept because of political circumstance. Mind you, the rhetoric is bizarre on either side. Hamas is no more “terrorist” than Israel is “oppressive”. Which, of course, isn’t to say that either are guilty of what they are accused of to some degree. But then, the shoe fits on either foot.

The giving back land is a joke. That Israel was attacked is more duplicity; had any other group done that on contemporary American soil, or had some foreign bodies bless such a set-up…no Westerner who has an iota of nationalistic sentiment would accept the imposition of such an “entity” or state.

That Israel made gains through military means is a dangerous argument, as it accepts gains through war and if one wants to be even handed should give the Arabs the same right to grab land. Considering this conflict is anything but over…that sounds like an acceptance and invitation to further violence.

There is only one main point:

*Israel has every much a right to exist as Palestine…today…right now…as we speak. The Palestinians should not have to fight for their land any more than the Israelis do. No negotiation, no talks…it exists.

Anything else is sophistry.

Now you tell me who on either side of the fence agrees with that sentiment? Note that this is certainly not official policy (where the non-existence of Palestine is presumed), nor is it a popular opinion in the West.