Israel Used Uranium in Lebanon War

CAIRO — Israel has pounded Lebanon with uranium-based weapons during its 34-day assault on the tiny Arab country, prominent British columnist Robert Fisk charged on Saturday, October 28.

“Scientific evidence gathered from at least two bomb craters in Khiam and At-Tiri (in the south)… suggests that uranium-based munitions may now also be included in Israel’s weapons inventory - and were used against targets in Lebanon,” Fisk wrote in The Independent.

Citing Dr Chris Busby, the British Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risk, Fisk said that two soil samples in the area showed “elevated radiation signatures”.

“Both have been forwarded for further examination to the Harwell laboratory in Oxfordshire for mass spectrometry which has confirmed the concentration of uranium isotopes in the samples,” he added.

The isotope ratio was 108 at a soil sample from Khiam, a notorious Israeli prison during the Israeli occupation of south Lebanon from 1978 and 2000, and a site heavily battered by Israeli warplanes in the last war, according to Busby.

This is indicative of the presence of enriched uranium.

Busby states that there are two possible reasons for the contamination in the area.

“The first is that the weapon was some novel small experimental nuclear fission device or other experimental weapon (eg, a thermobaric weapon) based on the high temperature of a uranium oxidation flash … The second is that the weapon was a bunker-busting conventional uranium penetrator weapon employing enriched uranium rather than depleted uranium.”

Israel launched its wide-scale offensive on July 12 on the claim of seeking the release of two soldiers taken prisoner by Hizbullah in a cross-border operation to exchange with Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails.

Up to 1,300 Lebanese civilians, a third of whom were children, were killed in the wide-scale blitz which left the country’s infrastructure in tatters.

Liars

The prominent British reporter said Israel has never told the truth when it comes to banned weapons.

"In 1982, it (Israel) denied using phosphorous munitions on civilian areas - until journalists discovered dying and dead civilians whose wounds caught fire when exposed to air.

“I saw two dead babies who, when taken from a mortuary drawer in West Beirut during the Israeli siege of the city, suddenly burst back into flames,” Fisk said.

Israel has insisted that the used weapons in the Lebanon attack were authorized by international law.

“This, however, begs more questions than it answers,” Fisk commented.

“Much international law does not cover modern uranium weapons because they were not invented when humanitarian rules such as the Geneva Conventions were drawn up and because Western governments still refuse to believe that their use can cause long-term damage to the health of thousands of civilians living in the area of the explosions.”

He said Israel suddenly realized it was not telling the truth when Jacob Edery, the Israeli minister in charge of government-parliament relations, confirmed that phosphorous shells were used in direct attacks in Lebanon.

“We know that the Israelis used American “bunker-buster” bombs on Hizbullah’s Beirut headquarters. We know that they drenched southern Lebanon with cluster bombs in the last 72 hours of the war, leaving tens of thousands of bomblets which are still killing Lebanese civilians every week,” Fisk said.

The UN children’s fund (UNICEF) says one third of the Lebanese casualties caused by cluster bombs have been children, who often mistake the lethal devices for toys.

In a letter to Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz, the head of the Israeli army’s Rocket Unit said that the army had rained Lebanon with more than one million cluster bombs and used internationally banned weapons like phosphorous shells and imprecise weaponry.

Made in US

Fisk also spared some of the blame for the United States and Britain for also using deadly uranium-based ammunition in civilian areas, failing to stand as role model for other countries.

“American and British forces used hundreds of tons of depleted uranium (DU) shells in Iraq in 1991 - their hardened penetrator warheads manufactured from the waste products of the nuclear industry - and five years later, a plague of cancers emerged across the south of Iraq,” he said.

He said Washington has disregarded initial military warnings of grave consequences for public health over the use of such weapons.

"But the US administration and the British government later went out of their way to belittle these claims. Yet the cancers continued to spread amid reports that civilians in Bosnia - where DU was also used by NATO aircraft - were suffering new forms of cancer.

“DU shells were again used in the 2003 Anglo-American invasion of Iraq but it is too early to register any health effects,” he added.

After consistent denial of the use of internationally banned weapons in Iraq, the US Defense Department conceded in November 2005 to media reports of bombarding the Iraqi resistance hotbed city of Fallujah with white phosphorous.

In 2004, IslamOnline.net disclosed the use of chemical weapons against Fallujah, which was categorically denied by the US in a statement.

We all know that Israel uses illegal weapons, but now they have proof!
People need to know more about what Israel has. They have nukes and you will be surprised to know that most of the people you come in contact with would have no clue about this.

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n your point is? no one is interested in knowing wht israel used in lebanon during the war...every1 is interested in knowing wht they didn't use [so they could pat them on the back for being humane and generous] in the war against armed-to-the-teeth civilians and $10billion arms/weapons holder hezbollah...

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i wonder how civil hezbollah or hamas would have been if they had the military equipment posessed by israel

although that doesnt excuse israel from using these weaponry

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^^ dont wonder

just need to wait to find out

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but my point is, if hezbollah used the weaponry on israel that israel used on hezbollah you would justify it

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i dont think israel has a serious case to answer on this.
going to war was different

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i think israel will taste these weapons at some point, theres no doubt about that. so maybe i dont want to criticise israel now because i want lebanon to be armed with same weapons. it'll ensure peace

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haha thats just lame dude. but not by your standards...i admit. lol.

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Well what did ya expect!ll LOL…

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I am not for or against israel but as far as amreeka is conerned it is better that this issue is objectively investigated for truth. blindly supporting israel has become a nasty habit

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Hopefully, they do eventually get these weapons, and hopefully they inflict the same amount of damage to the Israeli terrorists, both civilian and military. That day will come, but never soon enough.

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  1. Uranium is not an illegal weapon.

  2. Most modern armies have weapons that use DU for penetration.

  3. It is entirely possible that this is the result of advanced Russian Kornet anti-tank weapons used by Hezbullah. Russians frequently use DU, they have lots of it.

  4. It is highly doubltful that this Uranium is harmful. Years ago we did many good threads on DU, and there is absolutely no scientific evidence that Uranium is a carcinogen. Uranium in large quantities can harm the kidneys, and is a chemical poison, but it is excreted from the body quite easily. How do we know this? Long term cancer studies on Uranium Miners who spend years underground in an envionment that is loaded with Uranium dust! Let’s not act as if Uranium is a new invention. It is a naturally occuring element in the dirt of every square inch of earth in the world.

But, use the word ***Uranium ***and you scare the crap out of the ignorant.

Please research some of the old threads on DU and we can have a rational discussion. In the mean time, here is a great link that discusses all health aspects of Uranium, and has excellent tools for evaluating carcinogenic effects of Uranium over time.

Don’t like that one? Here is an excellent report from a Swiss Laboratory that was comissioned by the EU to study potential DU problems:

http://www.labor-spiez.ch/old/e/index.htm

Hopefully some of you who have attended University are able to apply some education instead of hysteria.

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so we take it you didnt manage to complete university.

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Completed a number of them.

Do you have comments on Israels Uranium usage, or are you incapable of having a civil and factual discussion?

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og: what does your university say on the use of 'phosphorus bombs'?

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A question for member Ohioguy about the post #12 above. The WISE website you linked is informative and seems objective because they say they are anti-nuclear. The part I don't understand is this - their website says uranium is quite dangerous - even the residual radi activity on the waste rocks left after mining for uranium is quite high. If that is the case would you not expect the radio activity from the uranium itself to be worse than that? I reproduce the quotation from that link -

"The nuclear chain begins with uranium mining, a polluting activity that devastates large areas. Uranium ore sometimes contains as little as 500 grams recoverable uranium per 1000 kilograms of earth. So, enormous amounts of rock have to be dug up, crushed and chemically processed to extract the uranium. The remaining wastes, which still contain large amounts of radioactivity, remain at the mines. These "tailings" are often stored in a very poor condition, resulting in the contamination of surface- and groundwater."

I do not know much about the science here - just going by what the above sounds like.

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I think if you look at some of the Uranium calculators you begin to realize that what WISE exposes is that chronic long term exposure to Uranium Ore in the mining process over the course of many years can signigicantly increase health risks. We are talking 20 years of daily exposure to mines, mine waste products and Radon vapor. This can increase the possibility of cancer by 5 to 10% over backround levels. This is measurable and predictable. However, other studies showed an increase in Lung Cancer, except they did not parse for Smokers, who can significantly increase the probablility.

If you look in the section entitled “military uses”, you will see references to inflamatory article after article. Then you begin to see study after study by countries who participated in peacekeeping missions in Bosnia/Kosovo where lots of DU was used, and where soldiers had significant exposure while cleaning up destroyed taks for example. The countries who sent soldiers tested the soldiers urine, and found no significant accumulation of Uranium of any kind. Nordic countries have such a high Uranium content naturally occuring in the ground, that some groups of soldiers actually showed a *decline *after serving for six months in warzones.

Don’t believe all that? Well, the World Health Organization did a study in 2001. They basically said, 1) Don’t play around destroyed tanks. 2) Destroyed Tanks should be hauled away to junk yards 3) Don’t hold DU chunks in your pockets 4) They found no evidence of ground water contamination, but recommended further testing just in case. They raised no cause for immediate alarm.
http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/env/du/en/

If people just read this stuff instead of fear mongering, they might be a little better off. DU has become a cause celeb on the internet, and because the mere thought of radioactivity makes people feel creepy, it gets a huge reaction among the ignorant and ill-informed. Whats more, when you couple peoples fear of radioactivity with the politically charged admosphere around the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, you have some pretty potent propaganda. Leave it to an ass-wipe trash journalist like Fisk to whip something up. Oh well.

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^^ Nice Response Ohioguy

I wonder if one of these guys will start a new thread saying that Israel Used Bullets in Lebanon as well

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^^what nice response

the guys going on about DU this and DU that. depleted uranium shells are old news. the weapons being discussed are suspected of being made from enriched uranium or an experiment of a tiny nucleur device.

the world does need to know what weapons are being used. Israels zest and reason for war has always been questioned by people from all over the world. this is part due to the fact that jews/us are not entirely liked anywhere, dont blame fisk.

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^^ enriched uranium or a tiny nuclear device?

Well, that is complete speculation. Infact, it is massive speculation that only Fisk is capable of..... The easiest explaination is that waste Uranium was used for the tip of a bunker busting bomb, and it was not totally depleted.

Only Muslim paranoia can have the Israelis creating new micro-nukes, which no one has ever witnessed or seen evidence of or even speculated about. Somehow you guys manage to make the Israelis about ten feet tall, and simultaneously condemn them on a whisp of evidence.