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no their logic is if you are a Jew no matter if u live in Israel, Paris or Brooklyn, you deserve to die
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One commentator after another is saying the same thing - Israel is not and will defeat Hezbollah.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/world/15139058.htm
**The aims of the military action, as originally laid out by Olmert, were ambitious. Pushing Hezbollah back from Israel’s northern border, replacing it in south Lebanon with the Lebanese army, disarming the Shiite guerrillas and the return of the two captured soldiers.
But as the campaign entered its third week, those goals were revised. Israel agreed to stationing an international force in southern Lebanon that would take control there, rather than the Lebanese army. Talk of disarming Hezbollah gave way to more modest statements that Israel wanted to degrade the group’s military capabilities. Plans to widen a ground offensive across the border were put on hold although a callup of thousands of reservists was authorized.**
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There are people of all sorts but the most logic I have heard is that all Israelis are "army reservists" hence no civilians (except children of course).
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http://www.kuna.net.kw/Home/Story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=891187
Hezbollah says its fighters force Israelis to retreat
A source of the organization told KUNA that groups of Hezbollah fighters carried out a striking attack on troop concentrations of the Israeli Army stationed on a hill just outside Bint Jubail and forced the forces to withdraw toward the northern Israeli settlement of Avivim. The retreating forces suffered casualties, the source. There was no immediate word from Israel on the ground development, that coincided with intensive Israeli air strikes on southern and eastern Lebanon.
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No, they're losing it because of Israeli terrorists. Only terrorist supporting idiots like yourself can be so blind.
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and where is your evidence for this assertion?
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Israeli strike hits aid truck
From correspondents in Beirut
July 27, 2006 12:00
Article from: Reuters
](http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,19926902-5006506,00.html#)
AN Israeli air strike today hit a truck carrying medical and food supplies donated to Lebanon by the United Arab Emirates, killing its Syrian driver and wounding two others, security sources said.
The truck was destroyed just a few kilometres from Lebanon’s eastern border with Syria in the town of Anjar. Israel has been hitting targets in southern Lebanon, Beirut and other parts of the country in a war with Hezbollah. An Israeli air strike on July 18 hit another truck carrying aid donated by the UAE. The truck, whose driver was killed, was travelling from Damascus.
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Mysterious wounds from Israeli shells in Gaza
Palestinians accuse Israel of using new bombs that cause burn injuries never seen before.
By Jennie Matthew - GAZA CITY
"When the bomb exploded from the plane. I felt I was in hell. Real hell," shouts 31-year-old Ghassan stabbing the air with his finger and straining over the side of his grubby hospital bed.
Professing allegiance to Palestinian national security but parroting ideology atune to armed factions, Ghassan went to Gaza's Maghazi refugee camp last week to fight the Israelis during a particularly bloody incursion.
"I feel chemicals. I feel high heat, I feel high pain," he elaborates in English, both legs heavily bandaged, as patients and visitors brush past in a crowded corridor of Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital.
"They found shrapnel with 'test' written on it," he shouts.
Accusations abound that the Israelis, pressing a nearly five-week offensive in which 130 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza, are using a new weapon.
Doctors say they have never before seen such specific burn injuries, concentrated so much on the lower body and causing such a high propensity of amputations. The health ministry has already called for an independent inquiry.
A French humanitarian group reported unusually severe injuries. One of its doctors reportedly raised the possibility that Israel used cluster bombs.
In response to a query about use of a new type of weapon possibly containing chemicals, the army said only that "specific claims are being checked".
"The IDF (Israel Defence Force) use of weapon and ammunition conforms with international law," it said in a statement.
But the Palestinian health ministry spokesman said that "we are sure that the occupation forces are using bombs that are forbidden under international law."
At the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Deir el-Balah, Habes el-Wehedi, a softly spoken senior surgeon, said medical staff were "amazed" by injuries of more than 30 percent of the wounded admitted from Maghazi.
"There were amputations of limbs. Most patients were afflicted below the waist. They had burns all over their lower limb," he said.
Others were afflicted by what he described as "translucent shrapnel not shown by X-ray" that caused burns.
Wehedi studied in Romania and throughout his 20 years in emergency medicine in Gaza and Jerusalem says this is the first time he's seen such wounds.
A piece of plastic with the word "test" written on it had been found. "I think it was in one of the patient's wounds or something like that. One of the nurses came to me. I saw it myself and touched it with my hand."
Admitting there are no analysis laboratories in the poorly equipped hospital, he confesses he has no concrete proof only "suspicion" that the Israelis shelled something other than the usual tank and plane fodder.
"As far as we are concerned, this is a new weapon for us. This could be phosphorus, chemicals or a mix, but until we find out and conduct an analysis we can't say what type exactly," he said.
Visiting two patients bearing the hallmarks of such injuries who have not yet been discharged or sent for referral, Wehedi gently points out the injuries on a 16 and 17-year-old boy.
Ismail el-Sawaferi's lower legs, torso and face are splattered everywhere with flecks of burn. His thighs and abdomen are heavily bandaged. The 17-year-old said he was standing in a group attacked from the air.
"I saw a light shinning in my face. I couldn't hear anything. I was deaf. I lost my clothes and after that I woke up in the emergency room," he said.
Wehedi's suspicions are backed up by fellow Deir al-Balah hospital doctor Ismail Bashir, 40, who has been working in emergency medicine since the first Palestinian uprising broke out in 1987.
Stuart Shepherd from the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said "some kind of inquiry" was needed, confirming that the Palestinian health ministry had already requested an independent commission of inquiry.
French group Medecins du Monde said its emergency doctor, Regis Garrigues, who has traveled regularly to Gaza "noted the particular gravity and severity of injuries" from the latest conflict.
Garrigues was quoted as telling French newspaper Liberation that "this resembles the effects of cluster bombs", particularly dangerous because they have a high level of duds that can explode much later after the attack.
The US-based rights group, Human Rights Watch, also accused Israel of using artillery-fired cluster munitions in Lebanon.
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Israeli missile strike 'an example of American democracy'
By KEVIN SITES
July 26, 2006
With a targeted missile strike in the center of downtown Tyre, Israel destroyed a building reportedly associated with Hezbollah. But while the destruction was complete, it was not bloodless, nor without repercussions.
The attack obliterated an empty seven-story apartment building Wednesday, wounding 13 people, including six children, who were living in the building next door. The target was reportedly the offices of Hezbollah's southern Lebanon commander, Sheik Nabil Kaouk.
It was the second missile strike in less than three days against the same residential neighborhood, although this one was much more powerful than the first.
The hit Wednesday evening created a thunderous explosion that could be felt a few miles away. A plume of black smoke rose into the horizon as ambulances rushed to the scene. The alleyway leading to the building churned with smoke, cinders and debris.
I had been conducting an interview only blocks away and arrived on the scene within 10 minutes of the blast. Young men from the predominately Muslim neighborhood were already in the adjoining structure, removing the injured.
One man was carrying a baby out of the building. The boy looked unharmed and wasn't even crying, but his face was covered with pale gray soot. Within moments, his mother followed, her face also covered with soot, blackening her teeth when the moisture from her mouth turned the dust into a fine, wet grit, giving her the appearance of a character out of a Beijing opera.
Within seconds another man rushed out of the building, carrying a boy of about 7, unconscious and bleeding from a head wound. He was placed in one of two ambulances at the scene. Soon, others were helped out of the building: a woman screaming hysterically; another, head slumped forward as she was carried by men on both sides of her; and then another, a victim bleeding from the head who walked out to the ambulance on his own.
When I entered the building to see if there were other casualties, I was greeted with the anger and frustration that has been growing during this two-week offensive that has killed hundreds, destroyed millions of dollars' worth of infrastructure and unraveled Lebanon's hard-won economic progress. Those inside screamed at me in Arabic to get out and tried to push my camera away.
While I followed another victim being helped to an ambulance, a young man took a swing at my head and instead hit my video camera, breaking off the top-mounted microphone and glancing the switch that activated the camera's infrared night-shooting mode, turning the video green for a moment until I could switch it off.
It hardly surprised me. For journalists who sometimes arrive even before emergency services do, it's not uncommon for people to want to lash out, especially if family or friends have been injured or killed.
When the ambulances left, people started to comb through the smoking rubble where the building had once stood. Some tried to put out the flames, covering them with slabs of concrete or swatting at them with blankets and pillows. The seven-story building with 40 apartments seemed to have collapsed on top of itself, leaving sections of the roof scattered over the top like broken ice floes.
The young men who were putting out the flames switched to salvaging things from the rubble, like books, including an intact copy of the Koran, which one picked up, dusted off and tossed to another.
One man walking amid the rubble was a doctor who works at the Tyre Municipal Union, a collective of small villages and cities in the south. I had talked to him in his office earlier in the day. I asked him why he thought the building was targeted.
"This is an example of American democracy," Dr. Raed Ghassan said. "This was my house. I hate America. I will fight America every day, every time."
I asked him if he thought America was responsible for this, but he just walked away.
When firefighters arrived, they pulled a hose through the wreckage and quickly put out the remaining fires. As more and more journalists got to the location, about a dozen young men began pro-Hezbollah chants for the cameras, just as they did after missiles hit a house in the same area two days before.
I asked one man whom I had seen at the earlier missile-strike location why Israel keeps targeting the neighborhood. He said something vague about a mosque being nearby, and then walked away.
"There was no Hezbollah in this building, man," another said to me. "None."
Later, the Associated Press reported that the building contained the offices of Kaouk - prudently empty, amid the mounting Israeli offensive. The missile strike seemed to clearly illustrate two aspects of the conflict so far: first, Israel's willingness to use overwhelming force against Hezbollah targets regardless of where they are located; and second, because of the mounting civilian casualties, a gradual closing of ranks by many Lebanese behind Hezbollah.
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More humiliation from Israel.
Hizbollah says fires new long-range rocket
Hizbollah fired scores of rockets into Israel on Friday, including two that the Lebanese guerrilla group said were new long-range missiles, in a barrage that wounded at least six people, police said. The longer-range rockets landed in an open area near the town of Afula, which is some 50 km (33 miles) from the Lebanese border. It matched the furthest distance that Hizbollah rockets have landed inside Israel since the conflict began on July 12. Hizbollah said it had fired a “Khaibar 1” rocket at Afula, apparently a new type of armament. Israeli media reported one of the rockets carried 100 kg (220 lbs) of explosives in its warhead. The remains were taken away for investigation. Israeli security sources confirmed that it appeared a new type of rocket had been fired at the country, but provided no further details.
Hizbollah is believed to have been supplied with armaments by Iran and Syria. It has said it has about 13,000 rockets in its arsenal, with ranges of up to 100 km (60 miles). At least 90 rockets were fired into Israel on Friday, police said, with at least six towns in the north struck. A local ambulance station was hit by one of the rockets in the town of Safed but no injuries were caused, the Magen David Adom ambulance service said. The towns of Kiryat Shemona, Nahariya, Rosh Pina and Karmiel were also hit. Hizbollah has fired more than 1,500 rockets into Israel since the conflict erupted following a cross-border raid into Israel by the Shi’ite militia.
Israel’s offensive against Hizbollah has killed 458 people in Lebanon, mostly civilians. A total of 51 Israelis have died, including 18 civilians. Hizbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah has vowed to take the war deeper into Israel, suggesting there could be strikes south of the city of Haifa. Such use of longer-range missiles would likely trigger massive Israeli retaliation.
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Hizbollah says fires new long-range rocket
Hizbollah fired scores of rockets into Israel on Friday, including two that the Lebanese guerrilla group said were new long-range missiles, in a barrage that wounded at least six people, police said.** The longer-range rockets landed in an open area near the town of Afula**, which is some 50 km (33 miles) from the Lebanese border.
sorry, but that doesn't sound like humiliation to me.
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^
Read the full piece then.
It's humiliation for Israel that hundreds of rockets are still being fired into Israel, despite all that Israeli military action in the last 17 days.
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Read the full piece then.
It's humiliation for Israel that hundreds of rockets are still being fired into Israel, despite all that Israeli military action in the last 17 days.
Reza Bhai, the real humiliation comes from the fact that 100s of 1000s of men women and children are sitting ducks in Lebanon. No defense, no strategy, just slogans for the hapless Lebanese! Why it is that every KhairKhuaw of Lebanese is begging UN to help with the ceasefire. Why it is not the other way around? why these humdards of Lebanese are cursing US for not helping with stopping the fight?
Why it is that we focus so much on "humiliating Israel" that we fail to see utter disaster right under our noses? Why Reza Sahib? Why?
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I also find myself wondering why you use the word humiliated Reza? I assume it's because that's how you'd like them to feel.
I think frustrated is a more accurate word/term to use.
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antiobl,
Yes, hundreds of women and children are being murdered by your beloved zionist freinds - deliberately, and you continue to make excuses and justifications for it.
It is greatly humiliating for such a big military power like Israel that you champion all the time, being unable to defeat a "bunch of tribal Arabs" that you bemoan about all the time. Every single prediction made at the start of this conflict by zionist stooges has proved incorrect, and all that bravado talk has gone out of the window.
Israel should release the tens of thousands of Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners, get out of the Shebaa, Golan and all the Palestinian territories, otherwise the very state of Israel will be engulfed in this disaster.
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Read the full piece then.
It's humiliation for Israel that hundreds of rockets are still being fired into Israel, despite all that Israeli military action in the last 17 days.
It might be considered sorta humiliation for not being able to stop the Hezbollah and ammunition, but that I believe is part and parcel of a war. An insult or humiliation would've been if that rocket/missile had struck some wanted target i.e. military base, post etc.
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Those Arabs who drew 10 lines in the sand, quickly got back their area (Sinai).
Any time the rest follow the shiny example of Egypt will get back theirs too.
Tribalistic quarrel with Tir kamaan (bow and arrow) will result in more losses.
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Until last week Israel talked about having degraded Hezbollah's capabiltity by 25%, then 50% etc. But now by their own admission the same, if not more rockets are landing into Northern Israel, and in further reaches than when the conflict began 17 days ago. Let us also not forget that Israel (and it's supporters on this forum whom I can quote) only expected this to last two weeks max, but now they are saying "many more weeks".
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They followed the “shiny example of Egypt” through that Oslo process and got peanuts, and Israel PM was made mince meat by his own people at the same time (peaceful Jews indeed?). It seems that Tir kamaan (bow and arrow) are proving quite adept at teaching the child-murdering Jews a fitting lesson.
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All right Reza Bhai. You win. Happy now?