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dont count your chickens before they hatch
I wouldn't say that yet, however Israel has failed on the account that they got atleast 11 soldiers killed to save 2 soldiers, but I don't know if those 2 soldiers were next president candidate or not.
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Those 11 soldiers got ambushed in the middle of the night patrolling their borders when Hezbollah came across the blue line and attacked them.
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You mean ground invasion. Because Nazis have been massacering Lebaese for more than 10 days.
About ground invasion, you said it right. Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.
Actually, ground invasion has been started by Israel already. Their idea was that sending special forces in small number will clear off Hezbollah’s rag tag militia. Unfortunately for Nazis, this idea failed just like their idea that air invasion will be enough to purge Hezbollah’s power.
So now they have no other choice but to invade in large number. Nobody knows what will be the outcome of such an invasion. All one knows is that it will be a bloody fight.
But it is more than obvious that even if Nazi regime can occupy Lebanon, Hezbollah and its ideology will survive. Nazi Yazeedis can NOT win, irrespective of the outcome.
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Israel will go and destroy Hezbollah just like they did when PLO was lobbying rockets at Israel in 1981.
Hezbollah and its ideology is the real Nazi here..........
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Like I said above, Nazis can not win, irrespective of the outcome of war.
Nazi apartheid regime of Israel originally had NO plan to invade in large number. After copying Big Daddy's air invasion of Iraq in Lebanon, they are now left with no choice but to start a big invasion.
This is not what they like. But they know their original plans failed, and continuing air massacre is ineffective. If they stop right now, they will be the Loosers with capital 'L'.
And so starts Nazi invasion of Lebanon.
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Nazi apartheid regime of Israel originally had NO plan to invade in large number. After copying Big Daddy's air invasion of Iraq in Lebanon, they are now left with no choice but to start a big invasion. This is not what they like. But they know their original plans failed, and continuing air massacre is ineffective. If they stop right now, they will be the Loosers with capital 'L'.
And so starts Nazi invasion of Lebanon.
no more like Allied Forces liberating occupied europe from nazi germany
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Israel is just following through in their plan to establish greater Israel... unfortunately its lebanon first.
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more like Nazi Germany invading Europe. Present-day Yazeedi Nazis are being condemned by the world as Nazis were condemned.
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Their Greater Reich became Smaller Reich after 18 year occupation of Lebanon.
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not by the arabs
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it became even smaller after they negotiated peace with egypt and withdrew from sinai and withdrew from gaza
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which is why the humiliating withdrawal from Lebanon of the most powerful regime of the whole Middle East at the hands of a rag tag militia of like 1000 guerillas was a great victory of Islam.
The difference between Jordanians/ Egyptians and Hezbollah is that the leaders of those countries were fighting the war based on Arab nationalism, while Hezbollah fights in the name of Lebanon, and more importantly in the name of Islam. Hezbollah's resistance against these Yazeedis is full of passion, and passion is what was missing among others.
Arab governments in previous wars turned out to be cowards, who accepted humiliation. Hezbollah showed what they could have done. Instead, those cowards are helping Nazis themselves. They are afraid of Hezbollah's passion. They are again proving that they prefer humiliation. And doesn't Israel just LOVE them!
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feel free to refer to this threadin case you don’t agree with the numbers.
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:)
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dont count your chickens before they hatch
The risks of a ground offensive are not lost on the Israelis. They failed to pacify southern Lebanon in a bloody 18 year campaign that ended in 2000 with the withdrawal of Israeli forces and Hezbollah as the uncontested power in the south.
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Belgian doctor: Israel using chemical weapons
20 July 2006
BRUSSELS — The Israeli military is using chemical weapons during its bombing of Lebanon, a Belgian-Lebanese professor claimed during a press conference in Brussels on Thursday.
The press conference was organised by the secretary of the Tripoli archbishop, Monsignor Jean Abboud. The Belgian professor of Lebanese origin, Bachir Cham, is the head of a hospital in Lebanon.
“The bodies don’t look like they normally do. After an explosion there were no traces of blood loss or subcutaneous haemorrhages [bruises],” Cham said via mobile phone direct from Beirut.
"The hair and sometimes the beard and the moustache remained intact. I found no traces of the pressure wave by the
explosion. The colour of the skin was black like a shoe, but the skin was not carbonised or burnt."
Eight mummy-like bodies were taken to the hospital on Monday and photos taken of the corpses. Two children’s bodies showed no indication of wounds resulting from an explosion.
“I have the impression that a poisonous product penetrated the body via the skin. Death follows with almost 100 percent certainty,” the professor said.
A heart specialist, Mohammad Farran, said letters had been sent to the UN and the EU drawing their attention to the alleged use of chemical weapons by Israel in Lebanon.
Meanwhile, Arab, Lebanese and Belgian peace activists protested for fourth consecutive day in front of the EU headquarters in Brussels against the Israeli attacks in Lebanon.
Placards carried by the protestors read: “Israel today is committing a deliberate crime against Lebanon” and “Stop Israeli terrorism”.
Why Hizbullah can’t attack Israeli soldiers just across the border
Nothing could be more $tupid than what we see from Hizbi actions. They are lobbing rockets into civilian areas 20 km away. But the same Maulvis can’t do anything against the Israeli army just across the border. May be they need to get new eye-prescription.
Israel blasts its way into Lebanon
Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:19 PM ET
By Lin Noueihed
MARJAYOUN, Lebanon (Reuters) - Israel bombed Hizbollah’s stronghold in Beirut and a south Lebanon city early on Sunday, hours after seizing a strategic Lebanese frontier village.
At least two explosions echoed across Beirut as jets roared over the southern suburbs. Strikes were also reported in the southern port city of Sidon, wounding three people.
Israel’s 12-day-old onslaught in Lebanon to cripple Hizbollah guerillas has claimed 355 lives, mostly civilians. Hizbollah attacks and rockets have killed 34 Israelis.
An Israeli military general said soldiers took control on Saturday of Maroun al-Ras, a hilltop village overlooking both sides of the border, where six Israeli commandos have been killed in heavy fighting this week.
Israel said it planned no full-scale invasion of Lebanon for now, but warned villagers near the border to leave.
Envoys from three European countries hold talks in Israel later in the day ahead of the arrival of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in an intensifying bout of diplomacy aimed at ending the fighting.
In the town of Marjayoun, about eight km (5 miles) from the border, cars packed with people waving white flags fled north, fearing Israel will step up the war.
Resisting growing calls for a ceasefire, the United States stressed the need to tackle what it sees as the root cause of the conflict – Hizbollah’s armed presence on Israel’s border and the role of its allies, Syria and Iran.
“Resolving the crisis demands confronting the terrorist group that launched the attacks and the nations that support it,” President George W. Bush said.
Israeli forces had urged residents of 14 villages in south Lebanon to leave ahead of more air raids.
“Do you know where we should go? Which roads are safe?” asked a veiled woman in the back of a white Mercedes crammed with people fleeing from the border village of Tallousi.
TRANSMISSION STATIONS HIT
Israel has built up its forces at the border and called up 3,000 reserves, but is wary of mounting another invasion only six years after ending a costly 22-year occupation of the south.
Already, 19 soldiers have been killed in the latest conflict. Another 15 civilians have been killed in Hizbollah rocket attacks since the fighting started.
Israeli air raids hit transmission stations used by several Lebanese television channels and a mobile telephone mast north of Beirut, cutting mobile phone services in northern Lebanon.
One LBC employee was killed. A nun at a nearby church said two French nationals were lightly wounded.
Israel’s army said it hit a Hizbollah radio and TV transmitter and an antenna relaying frequencies used by Hizbollah, whose al-Manar television al-Nour radio was still broadcasting after the strikes.
The war started when Hizbollah captured two soldiers and killed eight in a July 12 raid into Israel, which had already launched an offensive in the Gaza Strip to try to recover another soldier seized by Palestinian militants on June 25.
Washington supports proposals for an expanded international force on the Israel-Lebanon border but details were not fixed, a senior U.S. official told Reuters on condition of anonymity. A 2,000-strong U.N. force monitors the border at present.
Amid growing concern about the plight of civilians in Lebanon, Israel said it would ease humanitarian access.
U.N. relief agencies have called for safe passage to take in food and medical supplies. An estimated half million people have fled their homes.
Jan Egeland, the United Nations’ emergency relief coordinator, said at least $100 million was needed to help avert a humanitarian disaster in Lebanon over the coming months.
Foreigners have flooded out of the country. Ships and aircraft scooped more tired and scared people from Lebanon and taking them to Cyprus and Turkey in a mass international effort which has so far evacuated more than 25,000 people.
French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Britain’s Middle East minister Kim Howells are all due to meet Israel’s Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni.
In Cairo, Douste-Blazy reiterated France’s call for an immediate ceasefire. “If not, it will be the destruction of the Lebanese state,” he said.
(Additional reporting by Beirut, Jerusalem, Nicosia, Washington bureaux)
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4 more Israeli soldiers killed in Lebanon fighting today.
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**Hezbollah proving to be tough foe for Israel **
Figures released by the Israeli army show the pace of Hezbollah rockets raining down on Israel has not slowed - and the guerrillas are nowhere close to being neutralized. Air power alone is proving insufficient to rout Hezbollah, whose determination and intimate knowledge of the terrain are making them a tougher-than-expected foe. Mideast observers say Hezbollah only has to remain standing - not beat Israel - to emerge victorious in Arab eyes. Hezbollah actions such as blowing up an Israeli warship with an Iranian-made radar-guided missile or firing rockets at the once out-of-range city of Haifa have shattered taboos and astounded Israel and the world. The Shiite group has built Viet Cong-style bunkers and tunnels near the Israeli border to shelter weapons and fighters, and its members easily blend in among civilians.‘‘You are dealing with groups of 10 to 12 very well organized, very well trained people who work out of their homes,’’ said Timur Goksel, a university professor who spent more than two decades as a senior U.N. adviser in south Lebanon. ‘‘Don’t underestimate the resilience of these people.’’
Israel says it has already taken out nearly half of the estimated 10,000 to 12,000 Hezbollah rockets in south Lebanon, and that its blockade of the country should help keep the guerrillas from restocking. **But Israeli army figures show there’s been no letup in the number of rockets Hezbollah has fired at Israel. Since fighting began, the count stands at more than 1,100, with the number more or less evenly divided over the past 12 days. At least 80 rockets hit Israel on Monday, and two days ago the number was 129. **Most of Hezbollah’s rockets have been Iranian-made Katyushas and Syrian-made Raads, with ranges up to 28 miles. Israel also believes Hezbollah possesses the Iranian-made ‘‘Zalzal’’ rocket, which has the range to hit Tel Aviv and cities farther south. **‘‘Certainly Hezbollah doesn’t seem to have suffered many casualties and I don’t think their military capability has been degraded,’’ **Goksel said. Israel’s army chief of staff maintained Friday that nearly 100 guerrillas had been killed in fighting that broke out July 12 when Hezbollah crossed into Israel and captured two Israeli soldiers. But military officials have privately lamented what they called the low number of Hezbollah casualties. Hezbollah itself reports only 11 dead.
Fearing a prolonged quagmire and heavy casualties among its troops, Israel says it has no intention of launching a massive land invasion to defeat Hezbollah. But the past several days’ small-scale pinpoint operations to root out guerrilla positions along the border are proving far more daunting than expected, according to soldiers returning from battle. The troops complain of difficult terrain and being surprised by Hezbollah guerrillas who pop out from behind bushes firing automatic weapons or rocket-propelled grenades. Two Israeli soldiers were killed and 20 were wounded Monday as they tried to take the southern Lebanese town of Bint Jbail amid a heavy exchange of gunfire, missiles and mortars. The pinpoint incursions are supposed to accomplish what the 4,000 Israeli air sorties have been unable to achieve. But the twin strategy of airstrikes and limited ground offensives will not be enough to force Hezbollah to refrain from launching attacks, said Israeli counter terrorism expert Boaz Ganor. The issue is fraught with dilemmas for the Jewish state. Israel is determined not to reoccupy south Lebanon as it did disastrously from 1982 to 2000, but that may be the only way to neutralize Hezbollah. Israel might want to use a cease-fire to achieve its strategic goals. But a cease-fire that leaves Hezbollah’s fighting ability intact could, in the eyes of many Israelis, cause irreparable damage to Israel’s deterrent posture and hand a major victory to archenemy Iran, Hezbollah’s prime supporter. Israeli Cabinet minister Avi Dichter insisted the army’s offensive is going fine and that Israel can’t be expected to achieve its military objectives overnight, especially given what he said was the government’s determination to limit casualties among civilians and Israeli soldiers. ‘‘We know that only in Hollywood it starts at 8 and ends at 10 and normally it’s a happy end,’’ he said. More than 350 people have been killed in Lebanon since the fighting began, according to security officials. Some 600,000 people have fled their homes. More than 35 Israeli’s have died, including 22 soldiers. If Hezbollah emerges from the fighting with its ‘‘military arm more or less intact … my God they’re going to use it as a victory,’’ Goksel said. ‘‘As long as they don’t lose, they don’t have to win … because they’ll be standing up to the Israelis and in this part of the world that is a victory.’’
http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=WORLD&ID=564775473704732051
Re: Israel humiliated /Israel's response (threads)
The Israeli military today confirmed that Hezbollah has fired 1402 rockets into Northern Israel since the fighting began two weeks ago. All that Israeli military firepower, and the Hezb are still firing over 100 rockets into the zionist heartland every single day. How humilaiting.