Reading biography of Ada Jafri. She mentions that she tried to read Mahabharata / Ramayan from a Hindu teacher, but in her words, as sweet (mohni) is Khalis (pure) Hindi is, these books contain saqeel (heavy / difficult) sanskrit words, so she could not complete it.
I was of the view when someone say Khalis(shudh) Hindi, it means Sanskrit, but this statement is opposite to it. Can anyone clarify the confusion?
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i don't think so...a 'shudh' Hindi [as used by Newscasters on Hindi News Channels ONLY] is the more like Persianized [jinnaatii Urdu]...it doesn't use Arabic or Persian words as it is so common in Hindi. most people invariably and unknowingly use Persian and Arabic words 27/7...even not so 'shudh Hindi' news on Indian channels contain loads of Urdu [Persian/Arabic] words.
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We are not talking about Hindi as used in News / Bollywood. That is a malghooba (mixture), sometimes tilted towards Persianised Urdu and sometimes Anglo-Indian language. Hindi as used in literature... is it simply Sanskrit or it has its own identity as well?
Re: Isn't Khalis (Shudh) Hindi mean Sanskrit?
We are not talking about Hindi as used in News / Bollywood. That is a malghooba (mixture), sometimes tilted towards Persianised Urdu and sometimes Anglo-Indian language. Hindi as used in literature... is it simply Sanskrit or it has its own identity as well?
oh...Saskrit and Hindi are like Latin and English. Sanskrit as a language is hard to understand * but i can understand Hindi literature [not 100% but close to like 50%]...*
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oh...Saskrit and Hindi are like Latin and English. Sanskrit as a language is hard to understand * but i can understand Hindi literature [not 100% but close to like 50%]...
So how much pure Hindi is based on Sanskrit? Does Sanskrit exist as a separate language today?*
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oh...Saskrit and Hindi are like Latin and English. Sanskrit as a language is hard to understand * but i can understand Hindi literature [not 100% but close to like 50%]...
just curious what is the meaning of "sudh budh apni bisrai" or is it "shudh" or is that different from "sudh"*
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just curious what is the meaning of "sudh budh apni bisrai" or is it "shudh" or is that different from "sudh"
sudh = pure
sudh = consciousness/awareness
sudh budh apnii bisrii:
sudh-budh = soch-samajh/awareness/consciousness
bisrii = forgot/lost
bisarnaa = bhoolnaa
means:
apnii soch-samajh kho denaa
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So how much pure Hindi is based on Sanskrit? Does Sanskrit exist as a separate language today?
as far as i understand it, Hindi is quite pure unlike Urdu which has acquired vocab from different languages [Arabic, Persian, Turkish, English etc]. India's Judicial language is heavily Arabisized and Persianized even today.
if you read Hindi [saahitya (literature)], you hardly find any adulteration from other languages [not even Arabic or Persian].
of course, like Urdu, literary Hindi too is totally different from street-level [common man's language] lingo.
sach to yeh hai k aam bol chaal meN Hindi aur Urdu donoN hii khichRii ban chukii haiN.
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Re: Isn't Khalis (Shudh) Hindi mean Sanskrit?
sudh = pure sudh = consciousness/awareness
sudh budh apnii bisrii:
sudh-budh = soch-samajh/awareness/consciousness bisrii = forgot/lost
bisarnaa = bhoolnaa
means:
apnii soch-samajh kho denaa
Nice and thorough KKF Thanks
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Nice and thorough KKF Thanks
you are very welcome, SS! :)
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seems your answer is more expressive of sentiments…
actually the question came to mind from the word shudh or sudh they seemed like different words.
I had heard this many times in this song from an old movie Koh-i Noor!
in the words of Shakeel Badayuni
**Koii Pyaar Ke Pankh Pasaare
Aayaa Hai Paas Tehaare
Sudh-budh Apanii Bisaraae
Pagalaa Man Tohe Pukaare**
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Sabir Zafar (who wrote this OST for Man o Salwa) is good poet and in his poetry, he used these words perfectly..
In Pakistan, the way Ibn e Insha used Hindi words in Urdu poetry, no other poet after him could do that job.
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mujeh Hindi kaa ek lafz 'tihaare' ba-nisbat 'tumhaare' ziyaada pyaaraa lagtaa hai. aise hii bahot se alfaaz haiN jo Hindi kavitaa meN ziyaada mazaa dete haiN.
ek gaane ke bol the:
jo kuchh thaa apnaa laayii huN sab kuchh paas tumhaare
isko agar yuN paRheN to ziyaada pyaaraa lagtaa hai:
jo kuchh thaa yapnaa laayii huN sab kuchh paas tihaare!
in afaaz kaa iste'maal zabaan kii chaashnii ko baRhaa dete haiN.
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paindoo log 
So Dies Sanskrit exist as a separate language today?
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only in classrooms…it’s offered as a subjectlike Arabi, Persian etc. in India, some Hindu Colleges have it as compulsory subject in their High Schoolcurriculum just like Muslim institutions have Arabic/Persian/Urdu as mandatory subjects.
i haven’t heard anyone speaking Sanskrit except Pundits at wedding ceremonies. 
Re: Isn't Khalis (Shudh) Hindi mean Sanskrit?
only in classrooms...it's offered as a subjectlike Arabi, Persian etc. in India, some Hindu Colleges have it as compulsory subject in their High Schoolcurriculum just like Muslim institutions have Arabic/Persian/Urdu as mandatory subjects.
i haven't heard anyone speaking Sanskrit except Pundits at wedding ceremonies. :)
so in other words, its a dead language?
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Why you hate Sanskrit?
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Why you hate Sanskrit?
my keyboard does.. because it got 'o' besides 'i' :D
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Shudh mein "h" akshar ki upasthithi bilkul honi chahiye.