u are not getting my point.. if ayatollah’s were to be the true hujjat of imam, why would ppl oppose them if they’re competent enough to rule a land fairly.. i don’t see ismailis going around demonstrating against what the imam says.. so if the ayatollah’s represent your imam’s teachings, then why should they be opposed by even the most liberal shias??? they are opposing the imam indirectly that way… and one of my quetions hasn’t been answered yet.. it was: why don’t we find reference of 12th imam of 12ers from the books of sects other than the 12ers themselves?? will read your post 2moro. gotta go now..