Islamist voices rise on Pakistani campuses?

I don’t agree with this articles title..while the IJT may be very strong in Lahore institutions and perhaps in a few other places in pUnjab..they don’t dominate in other cities as much..although they do explain that in the article it is misleading

Islamist voices rise on Pakistani campuses

At Punjab University, cosmopolitan forces vie with a deepening conservatism.

By David Montero | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor

LAHORE, PAKISTAN – Like many students at Punjab University, Mohammed Abid Faran worries about living costs almost as much as his studies. To save rupees, he counts on an Islamist student organization, Islami Jamiat Talaba (IJT), which keeps prices at the university hostel artificially low.
“Here a cup of tea costs three rupees,” Mr. Faran, an engineering student, says. “Outside it costs six.”

But Faran worries that IJT dictates not only the price of tea but the proper comportment of Muslim students in this cosmopolitan city as well.

“We are studying, and they are saying we should protest, without regard if we are busy and want to go or not,” he says, referring to a recent demonstration on campus over the controversial cartoons of the prophet Muhammad. “Why should they put pressure on us?”

Such conflicted feelings underscore a heated debate on Pakistani campuses over the influence of groups like IJT. Islamist student unions are battling for the hearts and minds of young Muslims - receiving a boost from a growing student conservatism as well as IJT’s ability to fill in gaps left by the poor funding of education here.

Some 23,000 students attend Punjab University, a place that the government hopes will foster the values of “enlightened moderation.” The leafy grounds echo campuses around the world: young men and women stroll together down shaded lanes; a young woman poses giddily for a picture.

But some faculty members say that their tolerant and liberal viewpoints are facing an increasingly tough challenge. And students say they’ve seen IJT activists beat others whose public behavior they deem unacceptable. In one example highlighted by the local press, IJT activists allegedly beat a newly married couple whom they mistakenly thought were flirting in public.

IJT activists deny such charges. “This is false propaganda. There is not one incident in which IJT workers beat students,” says Nasurallah Khan Goraya, president of IJT, which is linked to the Jamaat Islami, a popular Islamist party with seats in the National Assembly.

Members of IJT, who number some 3,000 nationally, say they promote Islamic values not only by policing student behavior but by helping needy students. Pakistan spends less than $600 per student per year on higher education, proportionally less than comparable South Asian countries, according to comparative studies. Its spending on overall public education, the lowest in the region, declined to 1.8 percent of GDP in 2002-03 from 2.6 percent of GDP in 1990.

The US has proposed $87 million in aid for higher education in Pakistan between 2002 and 2007.

IJT leaders say they do not receive any money directly from Jamaat Islami. The bulk of their funding, they say, comes from private donations from former members both in Pakistan and abroad and supports campaignssuch as aiding schools in earthquake-affected areas and holding book fairs. “We have only an ideological link with Jamaat Islami,” Mr. Goraya says. “We do not depend on them.”

Mohammad Farooque Ahmed, a law student at Punjab Law College, says he was drawn to IJT’s methods of instilling discipline and knowledge, and that peace and democracy are cornerstone values. “We motivate our workers to pay attention to their studies,” he says, displaying a book where IJT students record daily activities, noting how often they’ve prayed and read the Koran. Itis presented to a supervisor at week’s end.

As Muslims, IJT members say they believe that Pakistan should be governed by Islamic sharia law, but say they do not support the use of force. “We want to make a democratic system,” says Shabir Ahmed, an IJT leader. “If people don’t like Islam, we will not compel them.”

Critics, however, say that IJT’s strong-arm tactics at Punjab expose their ideological agenda. Four years ago, IJT spearheaded a movement for a walled-off cafeteria for women, points out professor Mujahid Ali Mansoori. “They would not allow a single boy and girl to sit alone,” he says, adding, “When I was a student 30 years ago, it was a lot more liberal.”

Professor Mansoori and other faculty say the incident is but one example of IJT’s growing power, despite the fact that IJT is technically banned from campuses, the result of a 1992 Supreme Court ruling aimed at ending decades of political violence at universities. And, they say, its influence reaches into the ranks of senior administration.

Officials say they maintain the ban on IJT, but that the group benefits from influence gained in the 1970s and '80s. Still, they say, that influence is petering out. Muhammed Naeem Khan, the university registrar, says he is doing what he can to support that trend. “Whenever I have to exert force, I do,” he says, adding, “I don’t want to be fanatical in my approach. I don’t chase every poster.”

Dr. Khan says that the school recently expelled several IJT activists for engaging in political activities, including setting up booths to attract students.

But IJT posters are virtually the only wall adornments in one dorm - and virtually everywhere else on campus.

Afzaal Ahmed, though not a member, says students are compelled by religion to use force if they see improper behavior in public. “If you see some evil taking place, you must use power to stop it,” he says, noting that he’s seen IJT students attack others. Mr. Ahmed says, though, that IJT should not function as an unauthorized religious police force.

IJT’s overall impact has been “pernicious,” says Shaista Sirajuddin, chairwoman of the English department. “It’s really destroyed the academic environment. It’s erosive,” she says. She cites incidents where IJT and supporters have tried - unsuccessfully - to remove books from the syllabus. “A small number of us are fighting a rear-guard battle against the closing of one’s mind.”

But she says that students still graduate with a sense of tolerance, and that she and others place their hope in students like Sarah Ahmed.

“People at this age are mature enough to know what’s right and what is wrong,” Ms. Ahmed says. “You can’t impose your subjective viewpoint on them.”

• Rashad Bukhari contributed reporting to this article.

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Jamatias (IJT members) were raised to counter Surkhas (reds belonging to PPP and other leftists).

With the demise of Soviet Union, Jamatias are not needed anymore. They will slowly be kicked out.

Jamatias represent everything that is bad with our government run University system. It is time to privatize all universities. Government should worry aobut high school system only.

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Dow medical college karachi, one of the leading medical college of pakistan ,has a strong presence of Islami Jamiat Talaba. Incidents like stopping male students from ragging female students(their policy was that a female student can only rag a female) and other incident where a racquet/racket was literally snatched from a female student who was playing with her friend.There are also incidents like no music on farewell parties etc.

Jamiat is the most active student party in karachi.They in some colleges have strong prescence ,even more than APMSO the student wing of MQM.

As mentioned in this article that they control the price of a tea cup at university.The Islami jamiat taliba launched a protest when the government announced that college fees will increase by 1000 rupess 4 5 years back in sindh.The protest forced the government to reconsider their decision.They also finance students as well.

IN a city like karachi when a student enters a government college or a university he is "welcomed"by all the parties.So a Freshman has to join a party to survive in the college so the student has to choose between these parties.Jamiat being active in helping students with their fees etc may look less evil to a new student as copared to other parties fror example APMSO

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See that is what wrong with student politics in Pakistan.

I mean you don't see liberals, democracts, liberal democrats, conservatives, republicans on campuses in the west dictating to the university. Tuition might be a good thing but it goes way beyond that. These same parties run gangs and allow cheating on exams not to mention unfair pressure on other teachers / students for their people to pass. It is a very bad environment for the regular students.

If there is a problem with fees then students should come protest it but not the fake thekedars who have other nefarous agendas.

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Absolutely agreed, this kind of tribalism has no place in a modern society.

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soomro go drown in kabul river

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You see guys, It all ends up in the prevalance of justice in the society. If there are good instititutions that ofcourse emerge out of just pratices, we will not see these things. People will not take support of Jamiat and other parties on campuses to get their rights. SOmebody gave an example of the tuition fee help. Just like in the West, if there is a good system, people or students would not have to depend on these groups.

I strongly disagree with the presence of political groups on campuses. I know what goes on there because I have been through it. Students must not get into politics because it is always at the cost of studies. Again, the reason for the existence of jamiaat is the vacuum that emerges due to lack of justice in the society.

So it all boils down to judiciary and good institutions. Universities must be strong enough not to allow such things, but why are they not? They also do not have a moral high ground. Their policies and the confusing of the nation in Western culture and Islamic culture and the change of curriculum which was normal before 9/11, and suddenly turning into a demon does create confusion and at times resentment. We will only live as one strong nation when we have policies of our own.

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It is not that complicated Bubba. We have many universities where Jamatis do not exist. Mostly these are the elite insitutions like LUMS, or AKU. Many other private schools do not allow this beardo weirdo shenanigans.

Universities will be strong when the government gets out of this old business of running these institutions. Once students pay from their pockets, they will make sure they get their money's worth.

As it stands now, tax-payers are being looted in the name of "Phi-ree education". This must end. There is not "Phi-ree lunch".

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Yeah I agree Universities in the private sector dont allow such activities and institutions like IBA,LUMS CBM and other private universities are free of politics.But these private are too expensive or even a middle class pakistani.someone earning 20000 rupees a month cant afford a 75000 plus for a semester.

Even teachers in some cases are in involved malpractice.They facilitate students to cheat in exams after all their appointment is also political.

The islami jamiat talaba also launched a protest to stop agha khan board for conducting exams at the matriculation level.The reason for their protest was that they dont want students to adopt their ideology which conflicts with Islam etc

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So you are conviniently forgetting the government aid that students receive in the West?

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Only if punjab hasn’t stolen all the water already.. :omg:

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Deserving students can get loans or scholarships from the tax-payers. However this Mufat-Khori at the Univesity level must stop.

Every one must pay full fee either through government scholarship, their parent's money or Federally gauranteed loans.

You will see all these Jamatis will die at their own.

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^^ No they won't as they all serve the interests of the establishment aka the military!

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^ Get your anti-pakistani ass outta this forum or goto bakwasrakshak please.

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Yeah there is always the jamaat and establishment connection and they were mainly supported by zia but now pakistan's policy of enlighten moderation and the slogan of Pakistan first is an indicator that there is certainly a change in the policy of the military establishment.

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Why don't you go service your sikh masters in gurdaspur you beghairat ***** !

Syed, all this enlightened moderation is a reaction to the US after 9/11. Frankly speaking, how much do you think there is suport for a Musharraf agenda (if he actually is actively try to implement it) in Pakistan?

Don't underestimate the power of jamatis and fazlus on our lotas even when they are prostrating in front of Uncle Sam.

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Yeah after all we are an islamic republic atleast thats what our constitution states.

By the way the PML Q is making inroads in balochistan and NWFP and if they somehow get other PP loyalists with them musharraf will surely get majority in the next elections as well.

A common man is naive they dont know about enlightened moderation etc but if government will continue to give tough time to the mullahs surely people wont follow them and eventually they have to follow Musharraf saab.

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Only if musharraf stays around "for long"....

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Soomro go lick Atlaf Hussain's bum please and try to get a life while youre at it your anti-pakistani fag.

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So now from an akhrot to now i become an mqmer?

Interesting, but once and only from a dugga.