I am realising there is so much i dont yet know and some concepts to clear so i am gonna be writting in here and also searching on the net. I feel its easier to understand when we talk to normal people cuz we can relate to it.
Is it true that we are not allowed to say nafs along with fajr and asr namaz? If so, then what is the reason for it?
Can we say namaz along the azaan or should we wait for it to finish and then start our prayer?
What are the rules and regulations for Qaza Namaz?
1) Is it true that we are not allowed to say nafs along with fajr and asr namaz? If so, then what is the reason for it?
2) Can we say namaz along the azaan or should we wait for it to finish and then start our prayer?
3) What are the rules and regulations for Qaza Namaz?
1) Do you ask for the reason of why 3 farz for maghrib and not 4? then why ask for reason of why no nafl in fajr and asr. Simple answer is that Allah wanted it this way.
2) Yes we can. We can pray Namaz even before Azan as long as the time of that Namaz has started.
3) For known Qaza, you do Rakaat for Rakaat just the way you do the actual namaz (known Qaza is like the one you missed this morning). For unknown ones (and this is what I heard), you recite sura in all Rakats instead of just in rakat number 1 and 2. Unknown Qaza are the one that we called Qaza-e-Umari.
Also, you perform Qaza for all farz and witr of isha. No qaza for sunnat prayers.
1) Is it true that we are not allowed to say nafs along with fajr and asr namaz? If so, then what is the reason for it?
2) Can we say namaz along the azaan or should we wait for it to finish and then start our prayer?
3) What are the rules and regulations for Qaza Namaz?
1) Do you ask for the reason of why 3 farz for maghrib and not 4? then why ask for reason of why no nafl in fajr and asr. Simple answer is that Allah wanted it this way.
2) *Yes we can. We can pray Namaz even before Azan as long as the time of that Namaz has started. *
3) For known Qaza, you do Rakaat for Rakaat just the way you do the actual namaz (known Qaza is like the one you missed this morning). For unknown ones (and this is what I heard), you recite sura in all Rakats instead of just in rakat number 1 and 2. Unknown Qaza are the one that we called Qaza-e-Umari.
Also, you perform Qaza for all farz and witr of isha. No qaza for sunnat prayers.
true that you can offer it as long as its the time for that particular namaz but if you are in an area where azaan is hearable then its "preferred" to wait for azan.
true that you can offer it as long as its the time for that particular namaz but if you are in an area where azaan is hearable then its "preferred" to wait for azan.
I am sure that its part of adaab to wait for Azaan but not part of farz.
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1) Do you ask for the reason of why 3 farz for maghrib and not 4? then why ask for reason of why no nafl in fajr and asr. Simple answer is that Allah wanted it this way.
Thanks, I was thinking nobody was gonna reply to my questions.
But yah i dont agree with you that i shudnt seek for reasons as to why some things r the way they r in Quran. Unless n until we question, we dont learn. And i dont think my question is comparable 2 asking why there are this many nafls and not that many.
Anyway, thanks again for your help. Appreciate it.
Thanks, I was thinking nobody was gonna reply to my questions.
But yah i dont agree with you that i shudnt seek for reasons as to why some things r the way they r in Quran. Unless n until we question, we dont learn. And i dont think my question is comparable 2 asking why there are this many nafls and not that many.
Anyway, thanks again for your help. Appreciate it.
I really appreciate your quest for digging deep in religion .. but few things are the way they are ..
- Why ramdan is of 30/29 days?
- Why in farz we offer sura in 2 rakat and not in all rakat
- Why in taraveeh we recite dua-e-qanoot in last rakat ..
These things are just meant to be like that.
However, since nafal is kind a ibadat that you can do whenever you want to .. so if you feel like you can offer 'em after the namaz of fajar/asar. there is no harm.
I really appreciate your quest for digging deep in religion .. but few things are the way they are ..
- Why ramdan is of 30/29 days?
- Why in farz we offer sura in 2 rakat and not in all rakat
- Why in taraveeh we recite dua-e-qanoot in last rakat ..
These things are just meant to be like that.
However, since nafal is kind a ibadat that you can do whenever you want to .. so if you feel like you can offer 'em after the namaz of fajar/asar. there is no harm.
Yah i do know they r meant to be the way they are but i believe Islam is a very logical religion and if it puts restriction on something it wl give its reasons too hence my questions. I couldnt understand why there is a restriction (if there is) on saying nafls after some prayers and thats why i want to find out why and understand. Its as simple as that. I dont think its any kind of disrespect or disbelief.
no doubt at islam and logics. I truely believe in it ever since i started studying it .. .. however there is one tihng that i came up with .. which i would like to share with you
Every single thing in islam make sense on logical grounds and if there is something which does not, then it does not mean that its illogical. It means that we don't have enough Wisdom to understand the logic hidden in that particular thing by Almighty Allah.
I can deduce logic for fajar and Asar (my own logic which might not be right) but i don't want to .. however i can give few hints
- Fajar time is very short i.e. Time from Azaan till Sun rises
- Asar time is also short, as mentioned in Sura-e-Asar. Though mula now say that you can offer asar as long as it is not maghrib time. This could lead to another debate.
My points does not mean that i am deducing some ULTIMATE LOGIC or something .. thats something that i will come up with if I HAVE TOO .. .. God knows the best!
Every single thing in islam make sense on logical grounds and if there is something which does not, then it does not mean that its illogical. It means that we don't have enough Wisdom to understand the logic hidden in that particular thing by Almighty Allah.
And that is what i also said that since i m lacking in knowledge i had like to gain on it it by finding out the answers.
Btw, What do nafls have to do with the time of the namaz? We can do nafls anytime na.
yes you can do nafl anytime but it is "preferred" to offer nafl by the end of "any namaz" .. like if you want to offer "shukrana nafl". you can offer it any time .. but its preferred to offer it at the end of any namaz i.e. fajr, zuhar, asar, maghrib, isha!
There is always a preferred way and a normal way. There is no difference in both however, preferred way is "advised"
SubhanAllah ... This thread is not going very well ...
The prayers which do not have nafl after them i.e. Fajr and Asr have a very good reason for this. Also, it is not true that nafl can be offered anytime.
Ok ... offering any prayer nafl or qaza after fajr fard is prohibited, because this was the time when pagans used to worship the sun on it's rising. After Fajr until a point when the sun is clearly above the horizon offering any prayer is not allowed. After this time the nafl prayer ishraq or doha can be offered. Then any nafl can be prayed until a few minutes before high noon, which is called zawal time - at zawal time it is prohibited for any prayer - (not Qur'an or tasbeeh, just salat) - again for the same reasons. Again it is prohibited to offer any prayer after 'asr until the sun has set.
Some people offer tahiyatul-masjid which is also nafl whenever they enter the masjid many do this before dhuhr i.e. during zawal time and also just before the maghrib prayer both are wrong because these are the wrong times to offer any prayer.
A hadith mentions that we should avoid praying between the two horns of the devil. Otherwise if we start nafl prayer before the azan has started there is nothing wrong with this (but we need to be cautious of zawal times of high noon and when the sun is in the middle of setting), we should not offer any prayer when the azan has started. Many masjids do their azans 15 minutes before jamat or something like that, but azan prayer marks the end of one time and the beginning of another, so really we should wait for the azan before doing the sunnah of the next prayer.
If someone have missed Salahs in their account. Either one time’s or of many years, they must pray their Qaza as soon as possible. Salah is a Fard and not forgiven. On the day of judgement Salah will be the first thing asked about.
For the people who have many years of missed Salahs. There is a way to pray them quickly. Following instructions have four exceptions and has all Fards and Wajibs for a complete Salat. Please pray your Qaza as soon as possible. Even of you could pray one days Qaza Salahs every day which are only 20 rakahs (3 wajib witr), please do it. It only takes few mins to perform 20 rakahs according to the following instructions.
1) In Ruku and Sajdah instead of reciting “Subhaana Rabbiyal Azeem” and “Subhaana Rabbiyal A’la” three times, say it only once. But make sure do not leave Ruku poster untill the Meem (M) of Azeem has been said properly. Similarly do not leave the posture of Sajdah until Ala has been said completely. Just make sure to say these Tasbeehaat properly and do not rush.
*2) In third and four Rakah of Fard Salah instead of reciting the whole Soorah Fatiha say, “Subhan Allah” three times and go to Ruku, . Make sure “Subhan Allah” has been recited three times properly, do not rush. This exeption is only for Fard. In third rakah of Witr it’s a must to recite full Soorah Fatiha followed by at least three ayahs of Quran or a soorah (as we usually do in first and second rakah).
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3) In last Qaidah (when we sit for Attahyyat) before Salam, after Attahyyat instead of full Durood and Dua just say, “Allah Humma Salle Ala Sayedena Mohammad Wa Aalihi”, then finish the Salat with Salam. Dua is not a must here.
4) In Witr, instead of full Dua-e-Qunoot just say “Rabbigh Fir Lee” one or three times.
Btw, What do nafls have to do with the time of the namaz? We can do nafls anytime na.
This is exactly what you need to do. There are no nafls that are part of namaz. In my opinion, its a fitna, i.e. to discourage people from namaz by adding nafl to it so it looks so lengthy that people find reason to avoid the whole namaz. Like 17 rakats of Isha .. what is that man? Isha is only 9 rakats; 4 farz, 2 sunna, 3 witr. Adding 4 nafl and 4 sunna-e ghair muakadda and make it sound like part of Namaz is such a disservice to Islam in my opinion
I think the issue is not about what nafl prayer constitutes the prayer, there are various fiqh with their reasons that explain why they number as they do, the issue here is about whether or not nafl prayer can or cannot be offered anytime of the day. Apart from restricted times any number of nafl can be offered, but it needs to be made clear that there are forbidden times during the course of the day in which no prayer can be offered.
SubhanAllah ... This thread is not going very well ...
The prayers which do not have nafl after them i.e. Fajr and Asr have a very good reason for this. Also, it is not true that nafl can be offered anytime.
Ok ... offering any prayer nafl or qaza after fajr fard is prohibited, because this was the time when pagans used to worship the sun on it's rising. After Fajr until a point when the sun is clearly above the horizon offering any prayer is not allowed. After this time the nafl prayer ishraq or doha can be offered. Then any nafl can be prayed until a few minutes before high noon, which is called zawal time - at zawal time it is prohibited for any prayer - (not Qur'an or tasbeeh, just salat) - again for the same reasons. Again it is prohibited to offer any prayer after 'asr until the sun has set.
Some people offer tahiyatul-masjid which is also nafl whenever they enter the masjid many do this before dhuhr i.e. during zawal time and also just before the maghrib prayer both are wrong because these are the wrong times to offer any prayer.
A hadith mentions that we should avoid praying between the two horns of the devil. Otherwise if we start nafl prayer before the azan has started there is nothing wrong with this (but we need to be cautious of zawal times of high noon and when the sun is in the middle of setting), we should not offer any prayer when the azan has started. Many masjids do their azans 15 minutes before jamat or something like that, but azan prayer marks the end of one time and the beginning of another, so really we should wait for the azan before doing the sunnah of the next prayer.