this is all too sad. the fact is that although Islaam is a religion of peace and acceptance, it is not seen that way, for the most part, in the western world. and when this fact is mentioned to most (not all) muslims, they get all defensive and start vomiting past history of all the evils unleashed by the demonic americans. not a constructive way to make things better or to facilitate mutual acceptance and understanding.
yes, the evil kafir amrikaans are at fault here too....but dont undermine the part that Muslims play in this war of who's more evil.
You realise everyone in the world apart from the Americans (and Israel) hate the Americans?
Good thing the war wont be decided by international public opinion. That would be too democratic I assume
Also I am wondering wheither the regurigitating of 9/11 constitutes as history vomitting. And I agree, it is hardly condusive to peace efforts.
You wonder why it is not seen that way (by it I refer to the religion of peace etc) - with your media and propoganda calling upon MUSLIM terrorists and coupling those words as rampant newly weds- and yet funding IRA bull****tiness - I have not heard the IRA beng calling CHRISTIAN terrorists by Bush. Indeed that is becasue the entirity of america is inhabited by decendents of either the guy from braveheart or a green leprecaun (sp).
If you intend to call a pear a pear, then call all pears pears and don’t forget to call oranges oranges. I like this labeling, makes me delusional and think this world is somewhat fair.
You talk about protesting as if t will bring some results, more than half of the population in Muslim countries doesn’t know their own rights and you are expecting them to protest for other Muslims let them deal with their own protests first then inshallah they will do that as well and by the way what did the millions perhay likahy in US achieve by protesting against the war, did it stop the killing of innocents, no.
Verizon the whole point is that what you and your masters see as terrorism might not be terrorism from the other side of the fence. I think the seculars like you should come down from their high horses and see the ground reality. The world doesn’t revolve around NY city or NYTimes. In absence of any given system and peaceful transfer of power people in Iraq, Afghanistan and all over the Muslim countries have all the right to fight against despotic dictatorial and installed regimes, and that my dear is no terrorism, and why should anyone go against any just cause… and the point being used as a tool , I think one has to check both ends.
Thats exactly why we need a a muslim spokesperson that addresses all media outlets and condemns collective “Muslim terrorist labeling”. The moment CNN or Whitehouse makes a statement about “all” muslim terrorists (which I dont think they ever did) I want to see a press conference on BBC,Fox MSNBC, Al jazz etc condemning and asking for explanation. Now who is that figure that will stand up. I dont know. Better not be OBL or al-zawahiri or zarqawi. We all know they are terrorists.
If Muslims were such a media savvy group we wouldn’t be having this discussion now, would we? This is what it all boils down to and it’s my gripe as well:
Muslims have done a very inadequate job of representing ourselves in the public/media.
Have you heard of Bridges TV? It’s a NYC based cable network meant to build bridges with other communities and provide better media rep’tion to Muslims.
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And you have the gumption to claim American media is propoganda and generalizations?
Perhaps the IRA and its localized, territorial dispute are pears. But the world wide jihadi movement that wants to implement an Islamic state by inflicting terror are not the same fruit. Call them oranges or whatever, but they are not comparable in their scope, motives and consequences.
You may want US to get over 9/11, but that's not going to happen. The US is never going to get used to having its land and people attacked. You may think it is because we are 'self superior mongrel race of self-happy peoples', but that doesn't matter. Just know we aren't going to forget and are going to do what it takes to keep it from happening again.
Ground reality is not muslims killing muslims. OK. Shia kills a Sunni in Pakistan and then Sunni kills a shia on and on and on… there is no despotical dictorial siht involved in sectarian violence. Iraq is given an opportunity all the shia have no issues but the sunnis do so there is a jihad. Any Saudi Muslim stand up and take a bull horn and said “the sheikh says to cut it out” NO. Muslims in sudan… well…madhanee already covered that.
You wanna know something else, these are double standards, why is it that no muslim nations has stood up to China or Russia and said hey stop killing our brtoehrs and sisters. WHy just selective pssing against Americans and Jews. But then again that is not the point of the thread the pooint is how do we approach and better the tarnished image of muslims.
Aejaz bhai, this KFC happens to be in my parent’s neighborhood, KFC was not the only business business burnt down, but a whole lot more, unfortunately KFC gets the highlight sending people on heels thinking that its cuz KFC is American chain.
think Captain1's point is that the mob didn't burn the KFC down because it was American, they just burned it down because of their mob mentality. But yes, it is worse.
Captain, not only that, it turns out that KFC was Karachi Falooda Corner. Media has a way with sensationalizing every news and turning it into what it isn’t.
Madhanee you’re so cruel. You had to mention falooda.
I dont think anyone has said killing or murdering people is right. Why shouldnt we inform others of what Islam actually is rather than have them believe crazy stuff about it? Its not so much defending as it is educating.
And why shouldnt they mention of the evils done to them?
Aejaz bhai, this KFC happens to be in my parent’s neighborhood, KFC was not the only business business burnt down, but a whole lot more, unfortunately KFC gets the highlight sending people on heels thinking that its cuz KFC is American chain.
ek tu tum bhee naa, Simpsons ki tarah kahan kahan se kahani banatay ho.