Islam: The religion of Peace

[hiccup]

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@Madhanee

Hiccie, I knew deep down you are not Paki.

I am Olive skinned with pretty feet. That should have been your first clue.

[LuxuryItem]

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@Madhanee

LI. That’s why I say, fuk the world. If Americans are lining up to get Pakistani vizas, then I say, sure, but they are not.

In the ideal world, nobody would need anyone else.

[Muslim_Queen]

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@Madhanee

MQ, he lives in the west, and luckily only a very small segment of Muslims living in the US go around killing people. But lets talk about Darfur – close to a million displaced, hundred of thousands butchered. In Pakistan, 2 mosque bombings a week (Tuesday and Friday – Thursday is NaaGHa). What he is saying is the impression that the world has about Muslims. You may approve of Mosque bombings where Shias are killed, but unfortunately the rest of the world does not.

But Madhanee why blame an entire group of people for something some idiots might do? Thats pathetic isnt it? How for example would I or people like myself be to blame for something like that? In Islam, we’re supposed to be peaceful people. We dont believe in taking innocent lives, such things are strictly haram. Islam is about making peace, punishing those who commit such horrific acts. Ok lets talk of Darfur, then lets talk of Iraq. After all its unfair to look at one act of injustice and ignore another of its kind. Why look at one where so called Muslims are doing the crimes and ignore the one in which the Muslims are victims of such crimes? The world - if it indeed does have this negative impression of Muslims - needs a reality check and some common sense. I do not approve of killings and bombings, and I have made that quite clear. If people dont with to listen, their loss.

[Madhanee]

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Kaleem… the WTC was not in Mecca, the Cole was not a Paksitani Ship, the Bali toursits were not Iraqis, the Kenyan Embassy bombing (killing some 200 +) were not Iranians…

Now the Americans have gotten a hold of some righteous ass, and they are taking turn screwing it. Get used to it Brother.

[Aejaz]

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@hiccup

No offence (ok I lie) But you americans reaaaaaaaaaally need to get over 9/11. Relatively speaking it wasn’t that great a tradgedy. Poeple died and it was all well and sad, but really it is indeed time to move and wonder and fix whetever it was that made people want to kill themseves in the process of lashing out at a very very annoyingly self superior mongrel race of self-happy peoples.

Firstly let me thank you for acknowledging that you are lying:p

Honestly if the US of A after 9/11 just sat back on its A$$ you really think the Fanatics would not have tried another go, think again!!!

Which is exactly what is missing in our parent countries, LACK OF ACTION!!!

[LuxuryItem]

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@Madhanee

Where is Italy?

Italy was not where Dilawar, the taxi driver whose story was cited by Red Cross, was hanging by his wrists and beaten to death. Bagram it was.

[Kaleem]

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Madhanee,Still no link to Iraqis...so you are saying that we so blind and incompetent that we cannot even identify our enemy.

[Madhanee]

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LI. Is Bagram in Bangledesh where your Mulsim soldiers rapped and butchered Bengalis?

[hiccup]

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@Aejaz

Firstly let me thank you for acknowledging that you are lying:p

Honestly if the US of A after 9/11 just sat back on its A$$ you really think the Fanatics would not have tried another go, think again!!!

Which is exactly what is missing in our parent countries, LACK OF ACTION!!!

There is sitting on your ass and then there is senseless and disproportionate action. I didn’t know Greece was involved in any of this bakwas, peace loving poeples of great loveliness as we are.

[Madhanee]

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Kaleem... when Hussain the butcher pays money to encourage suicide bombers, sure he should be removed (on whatever cost). The problem is that he is hailed as hero because he killed Shias (gas Kurds). I wonder how would the majority Sunni muslim feel if Sunnis were persecuted in some Muslim country. They talk a lot about Gujrat,,,, but god forbid someone come to protect poor Shias of Iraq.

[LuxuryItem]

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@Madhanee

LI. Is Bagram in Bangledesh where your Mulsim soldiers rapped and butchered Bengalis?

Bagram is in Afghanistan where Christian US soldiers are killing innocent Afghanis.

[Madhanee]

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LI. have they reached 3 million figure by now? Wake me up when that happens.

[LuxuryItem]

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^^

At the rate they are going, they will.

[Madhanee]

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Promises promises.

[LuxuryItem]

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After $25 billion, still no electiricity for the poor iraqis. Promises promises.

Democracy. :D

[Madhanee]

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LI, Iraq is a lost cause. Let’s worry about Darfur where Muslims are butchering and rapping other Muslims. It’s really sad situation, and I think Ummah should pay attention to Darfur (you know it is near Asia on the map – kinda a little bit left of New Jersey Turnpike). What do you say? I am sure you are not happy about millions displaced and being raped and butchered by Muslims.

Let’s pray together for their safety. May be some animals, I mean Saudis, can send some troops and money to Darfur.

[LuxuryItem]

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@Madhanee

LI, Iraq is a lost cause.

Agreed.

Let’s worry about Darfur where Muslims are butchering and rapping other Muslims. It’s really sad situation, and I think Ummah should pay attention to Darfur (you know it is near Asia on the map – kinda a little bit left of New Jersey Turnpike). What do you say? I am sure you are not happy about millions displaced and being raped and butchered by Muslims.

Let’s pray together for their safety. May be some animals, I mean Saudis, can send some troops and money to Darfur.

Agreed.

[MiniMe]

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If you just look at the world before 1945 (ahh.. I am being selective) just go a 50 years beyond that time you will see that millions upon millions were gassed, murdered, butchered ( that’s other than the Jews of WWII) all around the world by the same people who are now (thanks to colonial wealth) leading the “peace” movements and labeling people terrorist left and right. For a period of time it was ok for them to oppress nations upon nations but if the natives resisted they were literally tied to cannons and killed. Form one wave of colonial rule to another rule and still the people who have genuine grievances are called terrorist.

Now did the people in Europe/US ask themselves if they were wrong, ohh they did…but still it took them a long time to realize….long enough that until 1971 there were countries in Gulf and north Africa which were still under colonial rule. Did they realize as liberal democracies that it was ok to occupy another country?

Now people like Verizon sure have the guts to ask if Islam is peaceful, and that’s just because of few killings, rapes, murders, beheadings, burnings and angry mobs etc etc (not that its ok)….but I would say looking at the record of all the competing forces around Islam, I would say its more peaceful than Christianity but he doesn’t follow that his religion is based on colonial secularism, which has been the biggest scar on the face of the humanity. But he is still asking if Islam is peaceful…and our Sir ji here is so hooked up to the 3 million Bangalis killed by the Pakistani armed forces…but fails to see that almost equal number children were killed in Iraq during the oil-for-food thinge …such a peaceful act… now have you ever asked if it was Islam which did all that?

[Madhanee]

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Minime Bhaijan, Oil for food? Well, I didn’t know that oil can be used as food, but leave it to them dumb Arabs, they would probably drink camel piss too. Did you know that All Arabs (without a single exception) backed the sanctions against Saddam. So tell me why are Pakistanis on such forefront of worrying about Iraqis and the Arabs don’t give a damn about them? Could it be due to his past or invading other countries?

I agree with Verizon Bhaijan that some reflection is badly needed. Why has Islam taken such a direction where its followers are less concerned about Muslims killing fellow Muslims (e.g., Sudan) but crying foul if a non-Muslim goes and try to clean up the mess in their lands? Think about it Minime Bhaijan, let’s see some protests on Pakistani streets not bout Quran in the toilet, but about Millions being displaced and ethnically cleansed in Sudan.

[Verizon]

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@MiniMe

If you just look at the world before 1945 (ahh.. I am being selective) just go a 50 years beyond that time you will see that millions upon millions were gassed, murdered, butchered ( that’s other than the Jews of WWII) all around the world by the same people who are now (thanks to colonial wealth) leading the “peace” movements and labeling people terrorist left and right. For a period of time it was ok for them to oppress nations upon nations but if the natives resisted they were literally tied to cannons and killed. Form one wave of colonial rule to another rule and still the people who have genuine grievances are called terrorist.

Now did the people in Europe/US ask themselves if they were wrong, ohh they did…but still it took them a long time to realize….long enough that until 1971 there were countries in Gulf and north Africa which were still under colonial rule. Did they realize as liberal democracies that it was ok to occupy another country?

Now people like Verizon sure have the guts to ask if Islam is peaceful, and that’s just because of few killings, rapes, murders, beheadings, burnings and angry mobs etc etc (not that its ok)….but I would say looking at the record of all the competing forces around Islam, I would say its more peaceful than Christianity but he doesn’t follow that his religion is based on colonial secularism, which has been the biggest scar on the face of the humanity. But he is still asking if Islam is peaceful…and our Sir ji here is so hooked up to the 3 million Bangalis killed by the Pakistani armed forces…but fails to see that almost equal number children were killed in Iraq during the oil-for-food thinge …such a peaceful act… now have you ever asked if it was Islam which did all that?

I’ll take that as a compliment. Thank-you.
It’s just bothersome that muslims dont protest about other muslims. Just like you can go on and dig up colonial attrocities, I can go on digging up atrocities comited by muslims against muslims. While I can go further than 1945 (meaning backwards) I won’t, because thats not what the thread is about. My question is, what are muslims doing about curbing terrorism and standing up against the very elements that use them as tools? Not a hard question. In all the posts so far there have been two suggestions. The rest has been “wasnt my fault, he did it first, no he didnot, he did too”.

Peace to you all my fellow Muslims.