Islam: regard men and women as equal?

[bbung4]

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[bbung4]

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[bbung4]

Re: Islam: regard men and women as equal?

@SyedAbduallah

Verily, are not men a degree above women?

Verily, men and women are not equal.

Verily, only a butch lesbian would disagree.

Endorsement

Only decent men.

Some women outshine men by far.

Such as Fatimha to me....

EXACTLY.

PS: comp crashed. Sorry for triple post.

[SyedAbduallah]

Re: Islam: regard men and women as equal?

Why avoid my question? Are not men a degree above women? Your pride is strong but justice will prevail!

[genius_paki]

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@bbung4

Altho its certainly not related... Id think before **LOL **ing at that one. read Bukhari for once, and hwo yoru Prophet ripped up a cloth Aisha had put up, with drawings on it.

Muhammad said DRAWING is once of the WORST things infront of God. Only hell for it, becaus it challenges God as in thinking your equal to Him..

Sooo God will give you to wheat seeds to knit together...and if you cannot, YOULL BE THROWN AWAY TO HELL.

Always remember, things have a hidden and open menaing.

God knows them all, and takes account of them both.

Thanks. :)

How do u know im** LOL** ing at THAT? ..How do you know i am not LOL ing at the fact that Rocking vibes HIMSELF starts a different topic(this whole similey thing) and is then telling people to stay on the original topic?. And if it is haraam (if it falls under the category of drawings), then bro you just did the same thing at the end of your message. Lets not talk about something other than the topic.

Sitting behind a monitor, do you think you can totally understand each and every word someone says?.

And indeed bro, Allah (Swt) knows All. He is the All-Hearing and the All-knowing. He knows our intentions too.

And sorry if i hurt your feelings by saying anything.

Assalamualaikum

[Rocking_vibes]

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@genius_paki

okay.. Sorry for not sticking to the topic but i was only replying to you. You are the one who started talking about “simileys being haram”. I dont know where that came from lol. I doubt that relates to this topic. Please correct me if i am wrong :).

I corrected you because of your language and views towards the glorious Qur’an. You say you can prove the Qur’an is wrong?. Please make a new thread and post the verses or whatever you want and Insh’Allah, you’ll get your answers there.

Coming back to the topic, Men have a degree higher than women but that’s a general statement. Men have more responsibilities and duties than women. They are responsible for feeding the wives and children. They have to be able to support their families financially. See the following verse:

“Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. **And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise” **(2:228)

Similarly, they are involved way more in business and all financial transactions than women. Therefore, one male witness in these matters is equal to witnesses by two women as mentioned in the Qur’an. Read the following verse from Surah Al-Nisa where Allah (Swt) clearly explains why men have a degree higher than women.

“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)” (4:34)

There are some matters where only a female can be a witness and not a man unless ofcourse, there is no option. For example, being a witness to the ghusl (bathing) of the dead.

That’s all i can think of right now. However, Islam gives rights to both men and women depending on their nature. Who better to know the capacities and nature of us than our creator Allah (swt). The rights can’t be equal if you think logically. Men and women have different natural abilities, different duties/responsibilites.

KYA Glorious Bakwas kara hai reply mein, Seriously speaking, I did not even read it. but I am sure you will find out the answers and my arguments on this link…
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm
Please get back to me Mr Paki Genius

[genius_paki]

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@Rocking vibes

KYA Glorious Bakwas kara hai reply mein, Seriously speaking, I did not even read it. but I am sure you will find out the answers and my arguments on this link.

Please get back to me Mr Paki Genius :D

DUDE i thought you said you can prove the Qur'an wrong. Go back and read your previous posts !!! .. You are not proving anything wrong. You didn't prove anything wrong even with the help of that website. Just maligning Islam won't make you right bro. Remember that !

You say you didn't read my article. Well, it shows what you are here to do. Your only "MISSION" is to MALIGN Islam in any way possible.

and ur the one who tells EVERY1 to stay on the topic and then you change the topic yourself.

Again, im waiting for your proofs .. keep on doing what you do best. (GOOGLE)

just stay on the topic. PM me with what you have got and we'll talk.

Assalamualaikum

[bbung4]

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@SyedAbduallah

Why avoid my question? Are not men a degree above women? Your pride is strong but justice will prevail!

SyedAbdullah,
What are you chattin about

My pride is strong? nice slandering. And who told you slandering is allowed in Islam?

See there you people go again, thinking your cleverer than God when He said, NO CONJECTURING, its of the WORST of EVILS.

So quit the conjecturing.

I'm a man. Why would I have pride to admitting women-men thing.

This is basic. Decent men do have a higher rank than a woman.

But nowadays, I'd beg to differ on that question huge deal.

Thanks.

[bbung4]

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genius_paki,

The LOLing at anyone is proudful and hilarious. Thsu I objected.
Would your Prophet LOL?
Would God LOL?

Exactly. Considering they would ONLY do what is good.
It doesnt befot someone dealing rationally, logically and for the truth, to be employing such methodology, even tho the opposition maybe wildly frenetic in claims.

It gives a wrong twist to the talk, thats why I questioned you.

I do know very well what I did. But, I dont know how you would state *IF its haram?
*
You may PM me instead, and I'll gladly talk this. As here, it seems like the topic is incumbent to being pulverised.

Siiting behind a computer one cannot understand each other exact. Thats why clarification and expounding sentences "fully" is necessary.

The next line, is obviously true.

No apologies needed. I also apologise

Wassalm

@genius_paki

How do u know im** LOL** ing at THAT? ..How do you know i am not LOL ing at the fact that Rocking vibes HIMSELF starts a different topic(this whole similey thing) and is then telling people to stay on the original topic?. And if it is haraam (if it falls under the category of drawings), then bro you just did the same thing at the end of your message. Lets not talk about something other than the topic.

Sitting behind a monitor, do you think you can totally understand each and every word someone says?.

And indeed bro, Allah (Swt) knows All. He is the All-Hearing and the All-knowing. He knows our intentions too.

And sorry if i hurt your feelings by saying anything.

Assalamualaikum

[genius_paki]

Re: Islam: regard men and women as equal?

@bbung4

genius_paki,

The LOLing at anyone is proudful and hilarious. Thsu I objected. Would your Prophet LOL? Would God LOL?

Exactly. Considering they would ONLY do what is good. It doesnt befot someone dealing rationally, logically and for the truth, to be employing such methodology, even tho the opposition maybe wildly frenetic in claims.

It gives a wrong twist to the talk, thats why I questioned you.

I do know very well what I did. But, I dont know how you would state IF its haram?

You may PM me instead, and I'll gladly talk this. As here, it seems like the topic is incumbent to being pulverised.

Siiting behind a computer one cannot understand each other exact. Thats why clarification and expounding sentences "fully" is necessary.

The next line, is obviously true.

No apologies needed. I also apologise

Wassalm

Agreed. my apologies.

Assalaamualaikum

[yo_wasim]

Re: Islam: regard men and women as equal?

Mods you can please delete this thread as the objective for this thread is lost.