Re: Islam on Paltalk
You are missing a very important point...
The difference between rape and marriage. Rapists are tried in court and punished. Rape is supposed to happen whenever there is no consensual se*. A nine year old girl is not supposed to make this decision for herself. The common perception is that she was forced to take this decision by somebody else, be it her own father or mother.People who rape young children are hounded and called as paedophiles while I dont know what would be term used for people marrying 9 year olds..
Paedophile just waiting for someone to bring this word great thanks for getting it in here, btw its a long one but yet unfinished read it for your sake.
Well, you havent answered to rest of my post, its usual for non-muslims to avoid the question i put up to them.
You believe that Mohammed was a pedophile for marrying such a young girl
FYI you are sought of ignorant coz Paedophiles don’t marry childreN they molest them, now some statistics
” The age of consent for heterosexual vaginal sex was 12 until 1890 when parliament raised it to 14. It remained
there until 1985 when it was raised to 18 in cases where an adult partner is in a position of authority over a minor .”
This means 1300 earlier it was common for young women to marry the moment they reach puberty, ironically most paedophiles are non Muslims as you know, in Australia there are many, those paedophile don’t marry their molested children.
***Now question about marriage with permission and freedom*
Certainly, those from a Middle Eastern Semitic background would not have found anything to criticize, since nothing abnormal or immoral took place. It is"modern" Westernized Christians/Jews/Atheists who began to criticize the prophet on this point, not earlier pre-Enlightenment ones.
It is upon reaching the age of puberty that a person, man or woman, becomes legally responsible under Islamic Law(As said earlier). At this point, they are allowed to make their own decisions and are held accountable for their
actions.
It should also be mentioned that in Islam, it is unlawful to force someone to marry someone that they do not want to marry. The evidence shows that Aishah's marriage to the Prophet Muhammad was one which both parties and their families agreed upon. Based on the culture at that time, no one saw anything wrong with it.
*On the contrary, they were all happy about it. None of the Muslim sources report that anyone from the society at that time criticized this marriage due to Aishah's young age. *
On the contrary, the marriage of Aishah to the Prophet was encouraged by Aishah's father, Abu Bakr, and was welcomed by the community at large.
It is reported that women who wanted to help the Prophet, such as Khawlah
bint al-Hakîm, encouraged him to marry the young Aishah. Due to the Semitic culture in which they lived, they certainly saw nothing wrong with such a marriage.
Now i wanna talk about what freud had said but for now just leave it let me go further and analyze it.
Puberty=Maturity=Marriage
An interesting article on the age at which people married in Biblical times is Ancient Israelite Marriage Customs, by Jim West, ThD - a Baptist minister. This article states that:
The wife was to be taken from within the larger family circle (usually at the outset of puberty or around the age of 13) in order to maintain the purity of the family line; This is just one reference to the fact that the onset of puberty was considered the age at which young people could marry. That people in Biblical times married at an early age is widely endorsed. While discussing the meaning of the word 'almah, which is the Hebrew word for "young woman" or "adolescent female",
Gerald Segal says:
It should be noted, however, that in biblical times females married at an early age. If you wanna analyze it further let me know let me go into detail of what you have stated.
Weather, Culture
In the famous book *Women *:
Islam has laid down no age limit for puberty for it varies with countries and races due to the climate, hereditary, physical and social conditions. Those who live in cold regions attain puberty at a much later age as compared with those living in hot regions where both male and female attain it at a quite early age. "The average temperature of the country or province, is considered the chief factor here, not only with regard to menstruation but as regards the whole of sexual development at puberty."
(Herman H. Ploss, Max Bartels and Paul Bartels, Woman, Volume I, Lord & Bransby, 1988, page 563.)
Raciborski, Jaubert, Routh and many others have collected and collated statistics on the subject to which readers are referred. They have summarised some of these data as follows:
(a) The limit of age for the first appearance of menstruation is between nine and twenty-four in the temperate-zone;
(b) The average age varies widely and it may be accepted as established that the nearer the Equator, the earlier the average age for menstruation.
Additionally, an article entitled Puberty in Girls by an Australian government Public Health organization, says:
The first sign of puberty is usually a surge of growth: you become taller; your breasts develop; hair begins to grow in the pubic area and under the arms. This may start from 10 years to 14 years - even earlier for some and later for others.
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Well this should be enough do you wanna go ahead further, before that i wanna ask you simpleme a simple question if this incident is deleted from our Prophets life would you become a muslim, hell no and a total BS.
*Well my next offer to you is pretty easy I want everyone here to challenge the Quran pretty simple:D *
