Islam and Dogs(animal)

[Deeba1234]

Re: Islam and Dogs(animal)

@zetsui

People read verses and hadith absolutely without context. I personally would have trouble because of hygiene issues. Even white people I know who are friendly with dogs do not allow them for safety and hygiene issues around their children.

Really??

I’m a dog owner and I know many others who have dogs but have never come across a couple not allowing their dog around their children (most parents love their kids playing with the family pet)..

Newborn babies for safety issues maybe but not generally children..

[redvelvet]

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@Doppleganger

Because you are into pigs… :diwanasmiley:

The pig was more relevant to the dog discussion than the bats as both animals are not viewed in a favorable light in Islam, hence the mention of it.

[TT]

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Some animals aren’t more hygienic than others. All animals smell and put their noses in crap.

[S_and_S]

Islam and Dogs(animal)

My husband wants a dog if we move to a warmer city where we can keep the pet outside. Me, not so much. I also wouldn’t like a dog in my home for religious as well as hygienic reasons. I have also read/heard. that dogs are not kept in muslim homes because it becomes difficult to pray in the areas they roam because like most have said they’re saliva is considered najis. I’ve read if you can keep a dog in a different area of the home, away from your place of prayer that is permissible which makes sense.

[X2]

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@TLK

The hadees did not imply that dogs are not allowed inside the quarters, it just says that angels are not going to enter if a junubi, a dog or a picture (of living being) is inside the house.

Unfortunately I know many many families, who will give you a long lecture about not having sa dog, while their whole house is full of family portraits.

Q1- does that apply to all angels? like the two taking notes of my deeds, will they have to sit outside the front door if there is a dog, pictures or a ‘southerner’ heh in the house? I mean that could be a really good thing for certain establishments…If you know what I mean

Q2- pictures of living things..what if it is a picture of charlie chaplin, he is not living

Q3- pictures of trees and plants are okay…they are living too?

Q4- if its a picture of a southerner dog, then its triple whammy right…I mean angels be like…yo, thats just over the top, thats ignorant habshi!!!

@redvelvet

As for eating the meat that is hunted by dogs or the animals that one has trained for hunting is mentioned in Surah Maidah…and the scholars vary in their opinions about the consuming of food caught by dogs…there are some restrictions regarding it. I don’t consider them bringers of ill-fortune, but I am not an animal/pet person.

So quran allows it and scholars have differing opinions and interpretations. Based on some hadith I am sure, which then leads to the question, if there are conflicting hadeeth on such a topic, then one of them has to be wrong …right?..or maybe more than one have to be wrong…technically, all of the scholars can be wrong.

[Southie]

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Originally Posted by TLK The hadees did not imply that dogs are not allowed inside the quarters, it just says that angels are not going to enter if a junubi, a dog or a picture (of living being) is inside the house.

@Sheeda_Pistol

Southie?

Care to explain why you referred to me in this context? The word junubi was bolded in your response to TLK.

Doppleganger, feel free to provide input, since you liked the post.

[TLK]

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@X2

Q1- does that apply to all angels? like the two taking notes of my deeds, will they have to sit outside the front door if there is a dog, pictures or a ‘southerner’ heh in the house? I mean that could be a really good thing for certain establishments…If you know what I mean

Q2- pictures of living things..what if it is a picture of charlie chaplin, he is not living

Q3- pictures of trees and plants are okay…they are living too?

Q4- if its a picture of a southerner dog, then its triple whammy right…I mean angels be like…yo, thats just over the top, thats ignorant habshi!!!

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OK my turn. Answer these questions.

1. Can angel of death enter the room if dog is in? If not then woohoo, we got our immortality, thanks to cute dogs.
2. Why charlie chaplin, what about an andorid?
3. Plants may be ok, but what about corals. they are animal class.
4. Now that I agree.

[redvelvet]

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I’m just guessing here. Maybe it is the angels of mercy or blessings that don’t enter the homes. Angels have different tasks and abilities. I don’t think that the ahadith encouraging kindness to dogs can be stretched to justify keeping them as pets inside the living quarters of the home if other ahadith discourage it. Some say that the part of the prey consumed by the hunting dog cannot be consumed by us. Dogs that are kept for hunting may have also been used for guarding/protecting no? That would be different from keeping the animal solely as a pet.

[CoughCough]

@redvelvet:9927751

I’m just guessing here. Maybe it is the angels of mercy or blessings that don’t enter the homes. Angels have different tasks and abilities. I don’t think that the ahadith encouraging kindness to dogs can be stretched to justify keeping them as pets inside the living quarters of the home if other ahadith discourage it. Some say that the part of the prey consumed by the hunting dog cannot be consumed by us. Dogs that are kept for hunting may have also been used for guarding/protecting no? That would be different from keeping the animal solely as a pet.

Im not sure which angels choose not to enter.

What do you mean by living quarters?
Does it include indoors and outdoors?

[TLK]

Rv, you are right about the angels part. The Hadees says “rehmat ke farishtay do not enter…”

[redvelvet]

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@CoughCough

Im not sure which angels choose not to enter.

What do you mean by living quarters?
Does it include indoors and outdoors?

Indoors. That’s where most of the living takes place silly.

[Scherbatsky]

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@Sheeda_Pistol

Southie?

Hilarious!

@Southie

Originally Posted by TLK The hadees did not imply that dogs are not allowed inside the quarters, it just says that angels are not going to enter if a junubi, a dog or a picture (of living being) is inside the house.

Care to explain why you referred to me in this context? The word junubi was bolded in your response to TLK.

Doppleganger, feel free to provide input, since you liked the post.

Southie, junubi here has dual meaning. One of which is southern. The other, I’ll let you figure out. Sounds like it’s in good fun, not to worry.

[CoughCough]

Rv-Hahaha just clarifying!

[TLK]

I believe that indoors specifically mean that very room that dog is in. The angels are not going to enter that room. It does not involve the rest of the house

[Southie]

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@Scherbatsky

Hilarious!

Southie, junubi here has dual meaning. One of which is southern. The other, I’ll let you figure out. Sounds like it’s in good fun, not to worry.

Dziękują Scherbatsky. Ale dlaczego robi wy nienawidzicie Hindusów?

[Scherbatsky]

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LOL. Od kiedy?

[redvelvet]

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@TLK

I believe that indoors specifically mean that very room that dog is in. The angels are not going to enter that room. It does not involve the rest of the house

Hmmm…I don’t recall reading that angels don’t enter the “room” that a dog is in. I have read they don’t enter the home a dog is in.

Ab room to home/ghar ka aik hissa hua na? Alag to nahi hai. You don’t stand in your kitchen and say, “This is not my home, folks. This is just my kitchen.”

[Southie]

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nitka ogólnienia

[Scherbatsky]

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Nie wiem, co masz na myśli?

[Southie]

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Wy Hindusów nie zasługuje wyboru nad krajowym Językiem angielskim w wywiadzie pracy