ISLAM A RELIGION OF PEACE NOT SWORD

Dear Fellows
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Nowadays, evrey one is trying to link SWORD*, *TERRORISM and MILITANCY with ISLAM. Islam actually is a RELIGION OF PEACE. Yes it is true that there had been incidences of violence among its own different sects, but their cuases were more of Political, rather than Religious in nature. On the premise of these incidents, most of the historians have tried to portray Islam as a religion which spread by sword. On the contrary, a close unbiased look at history reveals something else. Let’s see what a non-Muslim has to say;
De Lacy O’Leary, in the book, “Islam at the Crossroads” (London, 1923, p.8) wrote and I quote,
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have repeated.”
Without criticising any religious denomination of the world, all what I can say is that as compared to other religions and cultures, it is definitely the most peaceful. If you exclude certain eccentrics and fanatics, who took to violence for their own vested interests, you will see the difference yourself. In-fact, and rather unfortunately, the community which suffered maximum casualties at their hands were Muslims themslves in internal strifes. Otherwise, throughout Islamic history, Muslims obeyed the Quranic injunction, Let there be no compulsion in religion; for truth stands out distinct from error” (2:226).
Let’s find some examples.
ISLAMIC REVOLUTION DURING THE LIFE OF HOLY PROPHET (MPBUH)
During 23 years of preaching, both in Makkah and Madina, Muslims were forced to fight at a number of times. Lets calculate the casualties
Muslims
Fatalities; 459 (martyred)
Wounded; 127
Captives; 11
Opponents
Fatalities; 459
Wounded; Not known
Captives; 6546
Total fatalities in 23 years 459 + 459 = 918 (Strange, yet remarkable)
Fatalities at the Conquest of Makkah; 2 or 3
Now compare other instances with this Islamic Revolution
MAHABHARTA
As per Hindu tradition, all of the India was destroyed with hundreds of millions of casualties.
EUROPEAN RELIGIOUS INQUESTS
During these inter-sect clashes, estimated 12 million people were executed or burnt alive.
FRENCH REVOLUTION
Approximately 4.4 million people were killed on the Guillotine.
RUSSIAN REVOLUTION
Approximately 10 million people were killed or condemned to die in the snow bound prison camps.
FIRST WORLD WAR
Approximately 7.4 million casualties of warring countries, excluding the colonies.
SECOND WORLD WAR
Approximately 10.5 million casualties of warring countries, excluding the colonies.

Considering what is happening in the world today, it is clear that the sword is in the hands of West and not the Muslims (by west I don’t mean Christians, rather western governments). It is still intersting to note that those, who are actually holding the sword, are portraying themselves to be the proponents of Peace in UNO. Those who actually made those certain eccentric, fanatic religious groups in the world are the real Militants, not the Muslims.

Wassalam

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Can you tell me why the Prophet who had declared divinity needed to carry a sword and body guards?

As much as I know the religious history the prominent personalities or Prophets like Buddha, Christ or Guru Nanak did not carry a sword. They believed in sacrifices instead of capturing territories, nor did they invent any kind of Dar-ul-herb vs Dar-ul-Islam conditions.

“Let there be no compulsion in religion; for truth stands out distinct from error” (2:226). Can you tell me under what conditions this verse was narrated or what is context behind this. I am asking this with definite reasons.

There are many contrary verses in Quran declaring that Islam is the only religion of Allah; there is no God other than Allah; kafirs are destined to hell; or break the neck; etc……and for each verse you have contexts , explanations etc.

Can you quote where it is written in Quran that it is a religion of peace?

And I believe that Islam is a religion of peace I have often experienced in my short period of life.

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references please.....for non-hindus and even to many hindus mahabharata is just a myth. It never happened. It is just a story telling morality . Now how it is becoming reality?....Besides, even if it happened, it was hindus killing hindus, hindus didn't kill anyone else. Besides, at that time there was nothing called as religion let alone the term 'hindu'

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Islam religion of **ONLY **peace is Bull and weak vain desire based belying of God and Muhammad.

Just keep fulfilling prophecies....

Islam is WON by the swords, and wil again will be WON by the sword.

Any probelms, go and challenge Muhammad and God for why they said it.

Kuffars have done that well for 1400+years anyway...whats new

If God/Muhammad have ruled killing etc, its only PERFECT...

Only a sick KAFIR has doubts or objections....

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Islam is a religion of justice because establishing the will of God is establishing justice....it is encouraged that it is done through peaceful means but bloodshed is preferable to injustice ...even when there is fight amongst the muslims

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Quran 49:9If two groups of believers fought with each other, you shall reconcile them. If one group aggresses against the other, you shall fight the aggressing group until they submit to GOD's command. Once they submit, you shall reconcile the two groups equitably. You shall maintain justice; GOD loves those who are just.

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God sent many prophets.... some whose function was merely to warn ( jesus,lot ) some who were leaders of their community( abraham , Moses etc) and some warriors( like david ,solomon) ...Muhammad(s) had all three functions since the Arabs did not have a grt many prophets unlike other races ( e.g Jews)...Prophets of God do kill people or pray for their destruction there are many examples in the bible

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If the united nations told you that worshipping idols was a good thing would you say that islam endorses idol worship Dr.Sufi?

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Respected Sir
I fully respect the sentiments, attached to any religion. As a being humble Muslim, I know that my Allah has commanded me to refrain from passing un-becoming remarks in respect of dieties of other religions. Yes I believe in only ONE GOD i.e., ALLAH ALMIGHTY. But I would never like to redicule those being worshipped by others. Allah Almighty, in Holy Quran says;
"Revile not ye those whom they call upon (worship) besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance"(6:108).
Having said that, let me again clarify that I did not criticise any religion. I just mentioned certain revolutions which changed the course of human history. Of all the above, least blood-shed ever seen, was in the revolution brought about by Hazrat Muhammad (MPBUH).
Regarding Mahabharta, I would not go into any debate regarding its authenticty or otherwise. What I can say is that Aneesh Patels account of Mahabharata states that over 2 million soldiers took part in it and almost all of them were killed save a few namely, Kritvarma, Kripacharya, Ashvastthama, Kaurava, etc. Moreover, the 8th issue of Tattua Prakasha in its 1st volume dated 30 May, 2001, states the aftermaths of Mahabharata, when Parashurama, went on killing all the Kshatriyas Kings with their armies, in 54 countries one after the other. This incident was spread over to 6 continents. All those kings with their armies were killed and no able Kshatriyas were left. So the world was handed over to Brahmans.
Regards.

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^ similarly.....now, i suggest you google and see many claims even from neutral sites which counter your claim or this topic. so it means that what you are saying here is not entirely true. Besides, even i respect your sentiments.

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Respected Sir
Islam, Peace, UNO, and Idolworship are all different things. The problem arises when we start mixing different issues. This issue of peace, sword, Islam, Idolworship/Non-muslims is actually many fold. Lets see different facets of Quranic Injuctions regarding non-muslims.
1. Softness towards Non-Muslims
Quran tells us to be soft with them, "Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the Days of Allah (non muslims); it is for Him to recompense (for good or ill) each people according to what they have earned"(9:6).
2. Justice towards Non Muslims
Quran forbids us to be unjust towards them, ".. And let not the hatred of some people, becuase they shut you out from the Sacred Mosque, incite you to transgress (the limits of justice and humanity in respect of them)..(5:3).
3. Attitude towards Non-Muslims who are Not Hostile
The Holy Quran says, "Allah does not forbideth you that ye should deal benevolently and equitably with those who fought not against you on account of religion nor drove you out from your homes, verily Allah loveth those who are just".(60:8).
4. Action against Hostile Non-Muslims
Quran says, "Fight in the cause of Allah, those who fight you, but do not trangress limits"(2:190).
Quran further tells, "When ye meet the unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them"(8"15).

As far as world and/or UNO is concerned, nobody in the world can dictate us what is right and what is not. We by the grace of Allah Almighty as Muslims can never approve of Idolworship. But we should not go on finding excuses to redicule anybody's faith. As long as any idol worshipper is not showing any hostility towards us, we are supposed to be polite and peaceful. We are not supposed to take a sword in our hand and start showing our martial skills. That would be unjust. But on the other hand, if any idol-worshipper tries to spoil the peace and harmony of our religion, our country and our abode, at that time if we dont resort to the sword, that would be unjust.

All the problems arise when we start considering an incident, Hadith, or Ayat, out of its original context. So the rules of peace told in relation to non-hostile non-muslims are not apllicable to those who are hostile and vice versa. The best is to understand the relativity between the two.

Wassalam.

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As salamu alikum

Dr sufi once more you tried to convey good message and we all know Islam, the word itself means peace and submission,One of the attributes of God is As-Salaam, the peace giver. The path of Islam is called the path of peace. The ideal society in Islam is called Darus-Salaam. That is the city of peace. It is for this reason that Jerusalem was originally named as Salem, city of peace, by Canaanite Righteous King Melchisedeck, a contemporary of Prophet Abraham and was changed later to Urousalem and then to Jerusalem. I will not go into the details of that history. The mission of Islam as given to Prophet Mohammad was “to be merciful to mankind”the Quran.

In Islam, peace is the rule and war is an exception. That is, when attacked, Muslims have the right to defend themselves. Even then, if the defensive war can be avoided to achieve a peaceful result, it should be persued. In the battle of Ahzab, in the beginning of Islam, which was a clear aggression on the part of the unbelievers in Mecca, who traveled 300 miles from Mecca to Medina to attack Muslims. The Prophet ordered a trench be dug in order to avoid armed confrontation instead of going to war with them. The word Jihad has been misunderstood in the West and it is translated as holy war. If you translate the words holy war to Arabic, the translation would be Harb Maqdas. So, if Jihad is not a holy war, what is it? Jihad literally comes from the root word Jahd which means striving in the cause of God. Quran says “Strive in the cause of God with your person and your wealth”. It also says “Do Jihad with the help of Quran”. But Quran is not a weapon to be used in a physical war. It means do Jihad with an idealogical power of the Quran. Thus, Jihad is a name for peaceful activism. One form of Jihad is to take up arms in defence of Islam and Muslims when attacked.

In Islam, peace is not a slogan but a committment,As Dr. Martin Luther King said, “peace is not the absence of tension but presence of justice”.

I invite you to extend your hand of love and peace and friendship to all and to all of those leaders who are working for peace. If any member have any doubt that message of islam is not peace ask questions. keep it in your mind there is difference in attack on others and defence.
Blessed are the peace makers. Shalom---Salaam---Peace.

wassalam

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Was Islam spread by the sword?The Qur'an declares, "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256), thus, no one can be forced to become a Muslim. While it is true that in many places where Muslim armies went to liberate people or the land, they did carry the sword as that was the weapon used at that time. However, Islam did not spread by the sword because in many places where there are Muslims now, in the Far East like Indonesia, China, and many parts of Africa, there are no records of any Muslim armies going there. For instance, instance Muslims ruled India for over 1,000 years and yet on 15% of Indians are Muslims. If the 'sword' had been used, the statistics would have been otherwise. Despite 1,400 years Muslim presence in the Arab world, some 10% of all Arabs are Christians.
In the U.S., Islam is the fastest growing religion and, according to a 2001 study, it has 7 million followers obviously without any sword around.
wassalam

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even if mahabharata was a reality - its not a religious war - so you cannot compare with the crusades or any other religious conquests.

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**Haq Allah!!
Dear anjaan, your id says it all. You need to enhance your knowledge.
1- Prophet Muhammad :saw: never carried any gaurds. He never needed any. People around him were his followers, his servants. So had Budha, Guru Nanak, and Prophet Isa (Peace Be Upon Him).
2- The Sword… consider the shape of the Islamic sword. Its curved, hence defensive. The Roman sword is straight, double-edged and heavy, hence offensive. Every soul on earth has the right to defend themselves.
3- You wish to know more about Al-Quran-al-Kareem. Thats very nice. Plz send me your email address so that we could enter into a fruitful, healthy and detailed discussion with clarity, decency while respecting each others beliefs.
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Dear brother Dr. Sufi,

I believe that everything, which is claimed to be good for humankind need to pass a practical test. Religion included. If islam is a religion of peace, as I too believe by going through holy quran, it too needs to pass a practical test. And if current scenario of islamic world is any indication, Islam has failed as a religion of peace, drastically failed rather.

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Regarding Mahabharta, I would not go into any debate regarding its authenticty or otherwise. What I can say is that Aneesh Patels account of Mahabharata states that over 2 million soldiers took part in it and almost all of them were killed save a few namely, Kritvarma, Kripacharya, Ashvastthama, Kaurava, etc. Moreover, the 8th issue of Tattua Prakasha in its 1st volume dated 30 May, 2001, states the aftermaths of Mahabharata, when Parashurama, went on killing all the Kshatriyas Kings with their armies, in 54 countries one after the other. This incident was spread over to 6 continents. All those kings with their armies were killed and no able Kshatriyas were left. So the world was handed over to Brahmans.

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Brother its good to know that u believe in Mahabharata and Parshurama ect. But will I be able to prove U any point if I show U words of some Islamic Scholer speaking something against Islam? So I will advice U very humbly that dont try to prove anything by quoting any dick or harry' work, it may prove fallacious. ALLAH knows the best. :)

Coming back to the topic. Plz let me know that how can we believe that certain school is good when (big majority of) its students are proven failure? U urself have written earlier,

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Without criticising any religious denomination of the world, all what I can say is that as compared to other religions and cultures, it is definitely the most peaceful. If you exclude certain eccentrics and fanatics, who took to violence for their own vested interests, you will see the difference yourself. In-fact, and rather unfortunately, the community which suffered maximum casualties at their hands were Muslims themslves in internal strifes. Otherwise, throughout Islamic history, Muslims obeyed the Quranic injunction, Let there be no compulsion in religion; for truth stands out distinct from error” (2:226).

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Very well said Dr. Sufi, its not only an unglourious past but present too when more number of muslims are being killed by muslims than by non muslims. I hope U cant afford to deny, than how come u called the the religion peacefull if its followers are killing their bretherns in most brutal manner??

Brother the beautiful verse U quoted above from holy quran is too little to prove ur point. Plz check it out if there is any land to day in this big muslim world where muslims live as per instructions of ALLAH or on Shariyah. Wait,...... I can recall one, Saudi Arabia. But am I correct? Is Saudi running itself on Shariyah? Is it true that it has violated the above verse by imposing their own version of Islam which they call is Islam preached by the holy prophet???? Where religion is forced, where I wont be able to practise my belief. Is it peacefull Islam? If its not which I believe, than show me where is Islam? Peacefull Islam. As a Kafir, I think that I have right to ask U this question.

Thanks.

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So muslim armies came to other countries to librate ppls or land. I always wondered where Americans got their Idea of the quote "Army gont to iraq to librate its ppls" and how good its excuse for them to keep stingers and blah blah arms with them coz its only good and appropriate weapon available today.

Brother how can u call Islam fastest growing religion today? on the contrary its fastest shrinking. Show me where are muslims who fear ALLAH and follow HIS commmand, and sunnah of The Holy Prophet. Show me which country in the dozens of Islamic countries fear ALLAH and abandon the things HE has declared as haram in holy quran. Tell me how many islamic countries could resist the temptation of easy money which come through interest. Inspite of this that their people read and recitesvery frequently those verses of holy quran which declares interest haram no 1. And allowed in no cricumstances while pork is allowed in certain circumstances. But dirty pig meat not as tempting as dirty money coming through interest for majority of this great, big, but fastest shrinking muslim Ummah.

May ALLAH show them the right path. Ameen.

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Which sword was it that brought Islam to Indonesia?

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Well in my humble opinion, Islam has mostly (not always) spread by the sword. There are exceptions like Malaysia and Indonesia, but how can one explain Islam's spread from Spain and Morocco to India and Bangladesh ? Of course after Prophet Mohammad's death, it wasnt preachers who set out of Mecca, but warriors and conquerers.

Also the idea that, "Muslims in India are only 15% and if Mughals wanted they could have converted one and all......" is a misconcept. Mughals ruled by indirectly ruling over many tens of large and small Hindu kingdoms, especially Rajputs and Sikhs (just like British administration in much of India). The Rajputs used to also fight against each other, so Mughals entered treaties with some of them them to help conquer their enemies.
Most of the time, Mughal rulers themselves used to fight rebellious Rajput kingdoms under their empire.

Mohammad bin Qasim, Ghazni, Ghauri, Babur were not preachers of Islam, but rather Genghis-Khan type marauders. Their only aim was loot and to establish their rule.

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so islam spread by the sword or not? i'm sure they cud have reverted majority of india if they wanted, and even if they entered treaties, doesn't that show that islam was not spread by the sword.

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even british entered into treaties with many maharajas so that they can rule in the end......and because they didnt have any other option also. 'when you cant beat, ally with them'....is the strategy so that you can rule in the end. Islam did spread in india by sword, but not in all cases (my opinion).