ISLAM A RELIGION OF PEACE NOT SWORD

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before asking any question plz read it once more..
Was Islam spread by the sword?The Qur'an declares, "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256), thus, no one can be forced to become a Muslim. While it is true that in many places where Muslim armies went to liberate people or the land, they did carry the sword as that was the weapon used at that time. However, Islam did not spread by the sword because in many places where there are Muslims now, in the Far East like Indonesia, China, and many parts of Africa, there are no records of any Muslim armies going there. For instance, instance Muslims ruled India for over 1,000 years and yet on 15% of Indians are Muslims. If the 'sword' had been used, the statistics would have been otherwise. Despite 1,400 years Muslim presence in the Arab world, some 10% of all Arabs are Christians.
In the U.S., Islam is the fastest growing religion and, according to a 2001 study, it has 7 million followers obviously without any sword around.
wassalam

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14%

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Perhaps

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Islam is imperialistic just like any other empire...in 1400 years there were plenty of fatalities...Non Muslim states were given a choice...give up your land and pay the Jizyah or we attack you...

Islam propogated as an empire by the sword...and i say as an empire...Islam commands that the world be ruled by Islam but people were not forced to convert...it was just inevitable living in an Islamic society that people would see the light of Islam and convert...for those who chose not to thats their perogative...there is no compulsion in individuals accepting shahadah but there is no questions about whether Muslim or non Muslim should live under the law of the land which was Islam at the time...

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Brother its irrelevent to quote any verse of holy quran to defend muslims of wrong doings. Its very much evident from history that muslims were never very much obidient of ALLAH’s commands. They always kept acting against the directives of holy quran and continue to do so till date. saying that muslims could have converted whole India is childish, and baseless argument of a liar who happens to be a renowned islamic scholer. And above all I never said in my post that Islam spread by use of sword neither I said otherwise.

Brother regarding ur claim about islam being fastest growing religion I will like to inform u that islam is not fastest growing but on the contrary fastest shrinking religion. Plz read my post carefully and than answer. I have provided u enough words to prove my point, if u difffer with any of them than come ahead with ur arguments.

And as u have claimed that 10 or 14% arabs are christians, its another lie by the same scholer who dont shy of vomiting false statements even after starting with the name of ALLAH the most merciful. Plz let me know how many CITIZENS of Saudi Arabia are Christians? or non Muslims? the figure can be surprising and heart breaking for U who believe in the command of ALLAH, that there is no compulsion in religion. I challange U if u can find even 2% non muslims citizens in Saudi Arabia, the only shariyah abiding country in the big islamic world. The countries in which u can find those 10 or 14% christians are not islamic regiems but rather kufr like regims like Egypt or Jorden. They are yet to learn their islamic lessons. Perhaps they dont know that ALLAH has ordered them to implement shariyah laws as the laws of their land. Poor ignorant muslims. :teary1: may ALLAH show them right path.

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Please can you get the same above keywords with some authenticity. I agree the no. of Momins thats the believers are reducing, but Islam is the fastest shrinking religion,in what aspect.Is it terms of belief, population, etc... (can you be more detailed).
And saudi arab is not the only arab nation they are 21 or 22 Arab nations all together. So as told they are 14 million coptic christians, there for 1400 years. Please do get back to me with references, if I am wrong.

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till now i never got into this discussion.....but i would say something here.

the fastest growing religion, in terms of numbers, through out the world would be christianity even in india. In terms of percentage, it would be falun gong in china. and note that christianity is even growing in china, the most populous country in the world. Islam comes second after christianity.

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^Not true. Even Western media say Islam is fastest growing religion.

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Brother Wasim,

Yes, islam is fastest shrinking religion in terms of belief. There is no or very little iman left in muslims today. I believe that ALLAH revealed holy quran not just to recite or memorize or to make fuss about it, above all HE revealed holy quran for muslims to take guidence from it. This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah; 2:2

So brother its evident from behaviour of muslims(majority of) that holy quran has not found the distinction of being guidence for them. Rather they perfer their own man-made laws for them. For them holy quran is only fit for reciting, memorizing and to make drama out of it. When it comes to follow its commands, they simply shrug it off and find their own laws better. For instance u can check urself how many muslim nations are there who have abandoned interest on its soil. Even the only nation in this earth formed in the name of Islam ie Pakistan cant resist the greed of this dirty money coming from interest, dont they know that it (interest) has been declared haram no 1 by none other than ALLAH HIMSELF? What conclusion u expect from a kafir like me to draw from this? Majority of today's muslims are not muslims, they are not even kafir like me, rather they are munafiqeen, worse than me in eyes of ALLAH. Do u understand me brother? Of the people there are some who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day;" but they do not (really)believe. 2:8........Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realize (it) not! 2:9...........In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves). 2:10..........When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only want to make peace". 2:11............ Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realize (it) not. 2:12.

Brother plz sit for a while and think honestly that why ALLAH is not referring to the majority of muslims today? So whats wrong if I say that islam is fastest shrinking, coz today majority of muslims we see around us are not muslims but munafiqeen, about whom ALLAH has very clearly stated in holy quran.

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And saudi arab is not the only arab nation they are 21 or 22 Arab nations all together. So as told they are 14 million coptic christians, there for 1400 years. Please do get back to me with references, if I am wrong

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Brother I want to draw ur attention towards the fact that out of all arab nations u are talking about, only Saudi Arabia can be termed islamic coz its only they who have implemented shariyah laws as laws of their land. Rest of all have abandoned shariyah laws as obsolete and stale, and have replaced it with their own man-made laws. which in my views is blasphamous, U are free to have another opinion. So what value for me in islamic terms is how many coptic christians out of 14 millions live in Saudi Arabia which is representative of Islam and not hypocricy. Sadly U wont find any. I m sorry to say that I dont term those nations as islamic one who cant even resist dirty money of interest even after having commands from ALLAH.

Thanks.

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I am taking the complete 14 million of coptic christians, as the complete Arab nations. Its left to you, on what basis Saudi is.

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Ssingh beleive me with some research you will get some answers without anydoubt. Which is the fastest growing relgion.
Please go check out demographics of every western country in wikipedia you will get an answer.
Anyways what you say also is plausible

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I have always wondered about such slogans. I think everyone fights for the ideology he believes to be correct except cowards of course. Now fight as used synonomously as Jihad by many non-muslims today can be through many means including sword (meaning weaponry used in war). Muslims will fight by whatever means available to them to establish what Allah wants established in this world. It depends on the circumstances and era in which the fight must occur or has occured.

In todays world warfare has a totally different dimension capable of mass human atrocities, which is why the slogan of peace has become so ever popular. Combay is not a one on one affair anymore. Yet every one in power is till fighting to enforce their ideology by the means most effective today. Historically war and battlefields were the most effective means of spreading some ideology whereas today it is not.

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Partially true. If you look at religions like buddhism, toaism etc they didn't fight to spread their faith. It need not just be religion, it could be anything. Ofcourse majority of them do fight for their ideology.

completely agree....

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the very same western media is saying this.

http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=5044

Six million African Muslims leave Islam per year

This translation of a televised conversation reveals a rare glimpse into the outlook of Muslim scholars who are concerned about Christianity’s growth. The invited guest is Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani; the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, which is an institution specializing in graduating imams and Islamic preachers. Details see the link

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I do not recognize Buddhism and Taoism as religions. Based on what do you think they are religions?

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....coz they have their own set of beliefs and their own scriptures to follow. and also to recognize them as religion, there must be conversions taking place into it and conversions have taken place into it.

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I don't think scriptures only are evidence of religion. There are many offshoots of religions or ideologies today that someday might rearing their ugly head as religions. Some criteria that I look for is first, it should tell the truth about God, it should tell about the source of revelation for the scriptures, ma made words do not constitute divine words of God though they may represent some explanation of it. The infallibility of a scripture is of much importance as well, the person claiming to be a source of divine revelation is also subject to certain circumstances surrounding him and how possible it was for that person to have known the truths being mentioned. What is the correct interpretation of the scripture as well etc. Many many things.

What are the greatest miracles of Buddhism or Taoism, I am not very familiar with their theology. Can you elaborate?