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You can assume whatever pleases your heart. There is not a single country or government or group which follows Islam to the fullest in current times.
The fact remains; have you thoroughly read through the link you requested earlier?
And what sister Hareem said about ISIS.
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Anal Cancer Incidence Rising in Homosexual Men | Cancer Network
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If you’re okay with anal sex with your partner then keep it within your bedroom…no need to make it public. Or move to countries like Thailand.
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did you read that, hareem? basically same thing as how cervical cancer happening more with women, and rising with women who have multiple unprotected sexual partners - because of viruses.
and anal sex isnt something only homosexuals practice. how naive.
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You obviously didn’t read the link…that’s why ages old argument of comparing anal cancer with cervix cancer.
Dr. Goldstone, assistant clinical professor, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York, and medical director of gayhealth.com, said that he sees many gay men in his general surgery practice. The appearance of anal cancer in this population is a recent but growing phenomenon, Dr. Goldstone said. He speculates that the disease is emerging now because it develops slowly and HIV-positive people are living longer as a result of new therapies.
Until recently, he saw almost no cases of anal cancer, he said. He described the disease as “extremely rare” and more likely to be found in elderly women. “From 1997 to 1999, I saw five cases. Before ’97, I saw one in my whole career,” he said.
Alarmed by the pathology reports he was seeing for gay men, he asked Joel M. Palefsky, MD, of the Department of Laboratory Medicine, University of California, San Francisco, to help design a study.
“From 1997 to 1999, I collected 200 patients who were referred to my practice for anal warts, hemorrhoids, fissures, anal itch—problems you would never associate with precancerous conditions,” Dr. Goldstone said.
The majority—157 patients (79%)—came with a referral diagnosis of condyloma. Four (2%) had anal squamous intraepithelial lesions (ASIL), and 39 (19%) presented with other benign anorectal disorders. The patients ranged from 22 to 59 years of age; 131 (66%) were HIV positive. Standard Pap methods were used to report anal cytology according to a modified Bethesda classification. Biopsy specimens were obtained for everyone in the study.
Cytology showed that 105 patients (53%) had HSIL; only 14 (7%) had benign anal cytology. The biopsy results were even more striking: 120 patients (60%) had HSIL and 5 (3%) showed invasive squamous carcinoma. Only 11 patients (6%) had benign pathology.
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lol
copy pasta flood when you cant comprehend. nice..
you arent alone though - a lot of religious christians used to claim HIV was god’s curse on homosexuals, heck they still do.
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Carry on being blind to reality and consequences of anal sex. It’s not “gay” at all.
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Whats the punishment for gay people who don’t practice that type of sex? Thinking of male homosexuals.
Apparently, there are gay men who never have anal sex. So is the punishment reserved for those participating in such activities, or for homosexuals in general?
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Re what Hareem said about ISIS I don’t see the relevance. For I have NOT equated ISIS with Islam.
As for the link, did you read my question to you in my earlier post? Looks like you have not. I stated that the link you provided has 40 plus sections. And that I didn’t know where to start. I was hoping for some guidance from you.
it is not about my believing “what pleases my heart”. It is about understanding your posts. Which to me were not clear.
On one hand you state Allah decides the punishment. Then you state the “proper givernment” knows what this punishment is and administers it. Then you query me whether I would abide by such a proper governments punishment. when I ask you an example of such a proper government you are unable to provide it.
I don’t see much chance of getting clarity from you on this matter. And that is fine.
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I think important question is if being gay is choice why would anyone wants to be gay in place like ISIS run hellhole in part of Syria or Iraq or Saudi Arabia or Iran where they kill gays? What are the benefits of being gay?
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It is my understanding that folks who have no intentions of making it public are subjected to this punishment if caught. So yes, it is barbaric. Looks like you are okay with it.
Thanks for the information.
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Your understanding is screwed. I see plenty of homosexuals walking around in Qatar and none of them are being thrown off the buildings or put in prisons for it. You just want an excuse to malign Muslims under the cover of being liberal. You’re not liberal…to white people, you’re just brown and that’s not gonna change.
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Yes, I agree. But the problem is that there is a certain type of mindset which nurtures groups such as ISIS (for example). And this mindset is shared by some muslims (ie "kill them homosexuals/apostatea/whoever). So when a group like ISIS actually start to act upon that mindset, it puts muslims who share this mindset in an uncomfortable position.
They have to defend the mindset, but condemn the practice. When in reality, you can’t have one without the other.
So people has to choose, should homosexuals be put to death or not? In theory yes, in practice no?
Or perhaps in more “humane” manner than throwing them off a building, stoning is perhaps preferred?
Personally, I believe people should choose humanity over barbarity. And whether we like it or not, homosexuals are human beings, like the rest of us, non-homosexuals.
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Islamically, there’s no punishment for just being in love with the same sex. So yeah, surprise to you but Islam acknowledges that a male may be attracted to another male.
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Getting personal is the last resort of someone losing the plot. I won’t go there.
Is Qatar Saudi Arabia? I asked teggy a question abt Saudi Arabia. You jumped in with an answer. Now you are doing a bait and switch replacing Saudi with Qatar. Some would call that dishonest.
Who said anything abt throwing people off buildings? That is what ISIS does. In your own words ISIS does not represent Islam. So why obfuscate issues?
Anyway, thanks for the information abt the barbaric Saudi regime. Have a nice day.
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This I am on board with. Couldn’t have said it better.
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People shouldn’t present ISIS as some sort of authority over Muslims. ISIS might be Israeli or atheist or whatever…there’s not much we know about them. Last time I checked, they’re mostly killing Muslims from all backgrounds…and then some beheadings of foreigners that always ends up maligning Islam and Muslims. And now homosexuals…because obviously that would put rest of the Muslims in more Sh!t than they’re already in.
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How many people were killed in Saudi Arabia in 2014 for being homosexuals?
seems like your " not jumping to conclusions" theory doesn’t apply to 4+ billion Muslims.
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How is the killing of homosexuals by ISIS different from killing by the Saudi regime? Is it just the method? Is one more humane than the other?
Before you attempt again to paint me as anti muslim, let me add that the vast majority of Muslims are decent. And would oppose such barbaric punishments.
To those Muslims who support such barbaric punishments, how can you criticism ISIS for throwing homosexuals off buildings while being supportive of the barbaric Saudi policy of putting homosexuals caught in the act to death?
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Read my next post. I have ALWAYS maintained the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving.
How does it matter how MANY were put to death. In your own words, the punishment in Saudi is death. My post is ONLY directed to those Muslims who support this barbaric policy.
The vast majority of the 4 billion plus muslims are peace loving and would CONDEMN this barbaric act.
My post was not directed at them. (I thought that would be 9bvious to any honest reader)
Cheers