ISIS Hurls Gay Men Off Buildings

And people wonder why rest of the world has negative view of Islam and Muslims.

ISIS Hurls Gay Men Off Buildings, Stones Them: Analysts - NBC News

ISIS has released images that appear to show gay men being hurled off buildings and then stoned to death, part of the militants’ self-professed mission to crack down on “sexual deviance.”

The horrific execution tactic is the latest in a string of brutal punishment methods applied by ISIS under its strict interpretation of Islamic — or shariah — law, from crucifying Christians to stoning alleged adulterers to flogging young men for drinking.

ISIS featured a lengthy article in the latest version of its propaganda magazine Dabiq, released Thursday, on why it is “clamping down on sexual deviance.”

The article blamed the advent of the sexual revolution for putting the West onto a “downward spiral” of immorality and said ISIS will continue its efforts to punish any transgressions.

“It’s trying to shock and horrify”

The magazine came out just two days after ISIS released images purporting to show the execution of a gay man by stoning. In photographs released by ISIS supporters, masked fighters line up by a pile of rocks, and a blindfolded man is led by militants to his fate.

ISIS previously has opted to throw gay men off of towers — and stone them when they land. Two individuals were thrown off of the roof of a high building for the alleged “crime of homosexuality” in Mosul, according to a report released last month by ISIS on sentencing which was verified by Flashpoint Partners.

ISIS also suggested that its fighters executed a gay man in Raqqa last month, according to Flashpoint — a security firm and NBC News intelligence consultant.

In December, ISIS released images of its fighters throwing a man from the roof of a building and then stoned where he fell. It was unclear if the man had died immediately or if he was still alive when the stoning began, according to Flashpoint. His crime was allegedly engaging in a homosexual act.

Although ISIS’ doctrine has its roots in traditional hard-line Islamic law, punishing men accused of sodomy by throwing them from tall buildings was “very obscure,” according to Charlie Winter, a researcher at the London-based Quilliam anti-extremism think tank.

Winter said the practice was “not a traditional form of punishment” among Islamists and “not something we have seen other jihadi groups perform”

“What ISIS is doing in displaying this kind of thing is twofold,” he said. “It’s trying to shock and horrify the rest of the world but it’s also trying to give the impression that the shariah that it practices is the purest form of shariah.”

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Do you feel that the rest of the world would become content and everything would be serene if Islam changed its’ ways? Like for instance, instead of condemning homosexuality, it allowed it as a norm?

Whatever ISIS is doing, is their own doing.

To link that up to Islam, and then make Islam seem like a horrific monster is really devious. Consider reading about Lut (a.s.) from the scholars of Islam along with text from the Quran on the subject. It doesn’t get anymore authentic than the source itself.

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I am trying to understand your post. My comments in ALL CAPS (not meant to shout)

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All of comments apply to other religions as well.

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Are you justifying what ISIS is doing or are you ok b/c they are doing it to gays? As for story of Lot/Lut its story of lust and not sexualtiy. And if God hated gays why would he made them on 1st place?

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ISIS basically sounds like a group of psychopaths banded together under the excuse of religion. i bet they just wanted to hurl people off buildings. like they wanted to set people on fire, bury them alive etc etc.

in most civilized countries, they cant find people to do the job of executioners even when sanctioned by courts, and here they want to stone the guys after they have been thrown off a tall building. really.. who are these sadists fooling?

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I am not familiar with what compels them to do what they do. And because of that, How can any reasonable person justify what they do? Unless you’re implying that because I stated that which goes against certain norms of society, then I must also justify everyone’s actions just because they use religion as a cover? It must be my misunderstanding, because I have only known you to be fair in your view of others’ opinions. It’s a shame that when an individual fails to tow the popular tagline, and join the bandwagon, he/she is set in the position of “With us or against us”.

And we have had this discussion before, the story of Lut (a.s.) is not one of mere lust; it is of homosexuality. Quran addresses fornication as a separate subject matter. The story of Lut (a.s.) is very specific in nature, and addresses the subject of Homosexuality which is a grave sin in Islam. Please research that a little more for knowledge sake.

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Islam condemns homosexuality, and the accounts of Lut (a.s.) address that clearly. You can be onboard with or offboard; really does not change the fact.

The link gives details of the account from a classic scholar Ibn Kathir whose works better known as Tafseer Ibn Kathir is very well regarded among all past and present scholars. I wished to copy/paste here, but it may be best to visit the link itself and read what it has to say.

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Well, the topic of discussion is ISIS killing gays & my impression was from your post that you are ok with it b/c you consider to be sexual deviance(?).

2ndly, the story of Lot is originally from old testament & if you study history you will know that many of those stories were written by Jewish Rabbis (and there is no proof that he ever existed).

3rd, sexualiyt is a complex subject & runs on spectrum that religion with its black and white moral understanding cannot explain.

Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Thank you for your response. The link you provided has about 40 plus sections. No clue where to start.

Per Sharia, what is the punishment for homosexual conduct? And do you support such punishment?

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Fair enough, but your beliefs are absolute truth to you and only you & should have nothing to with public policy nor should it be advocated as such. Also, ISIS’s barbarism should never be condone be it burning people alive or throwing the off buildings on mere suspicion being gay.

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so you believe your god rained rocks from the sky and killed everyone in a couple of towns because of homosexuals? then why do you say the following?

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I don’t believe you answered my question. So let me try again.

What is the punishment as per Allah’s commands? (I assume that is where the “proper Government” comes in.

I assume Saudi Arabia is a proper government. What is the punishment for homosexuality in Saudi Arabia? And do you support it?

Are there other “proper governments per Islamic law” that punish homosexuality? If yes who are they. And what are the punishments. Do you support it?

In other words, rather than deal with abstractions, can we get specific with respect to what is happening in the world today in some “proper governments” to homosexuals?

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:rotfl:

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it Allah who administered the punishment to the homosexuals in Hazrat Lut’s (AS) story? I think that Hazrat Lut, despite having the lofty rank of a prophet…loftier than ISIS, only condemned homosexuality. I don’t recall him throwing the wayward from among his community off a building or a cliff or killing them.

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ISIS doesn’t represent Islam or Muslims…people should get this fact in their dumb brains.

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Actually, it’s about anal sex. Anal sex is haram even between man and woman.

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If you’re caught having anal sex you are tried in court and if proven the maximum penalty is death.
In some cases, you can be forgiven…like this case in Morocco.
Morocco releases British tourist jailed for

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So what was the punishment administered by Allah?

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Barbaric