These are pretty serious allegations and Mushahid Ullah is not your average Noora sitting in some TV show. He is a trusted aide of Nawaz Sharif and he is being VERY specific about “Nawaz Sharif played the recording of Zaheer Ul Islam’s phone taping in front of Rahil Sharif on evening of 28th Aug”
this tells us why Imran was looking for “Umpire’s finger” and who was pulling the strings of DHARNA
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I wonder what is the reason for these allegations when they are not going to take action against Abbasi.
I agree. If you are in power, keep your mouth shut unless you want to take some action on it. This cant be slip of tongue as Mushahid was pretty explicit in mentioning date, time and names of people in the meeting that includes NS and RS in addition to Zaheer
I am just wondering if NS has been pushed to wall a little too much from Army and he has decided to hit back and gain some ground. Mushahid can not go public on this without consent of NS
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at the moment govt is not owning his stance. parveez rashed saying this story is not true.
i m pretty sure abt the story however opening up such thing on 14th august seems related to internal rift of PML-N or may be planned to hit from one side and caressing from other side
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Of course they will deny it. Carrot and stick strategy. I truly believe that story is correct but for a second assume that its all “lie”, at least Mushahid’s head should roll. He should be sacked as minister and party’s leader…
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Well now after 1 year, its definitely no secret that entire dharna drama, rather topi-drama, was all a inhouse scheme of few generals. London plan, the way qadri moved and IK joined and they started processions from different cities on the same date and joined in Pindi etc. Everything is enough to believe that its a part of script.
Now this is neither the first time, nor last that these men in uniform tried to choke and murder an infant democracy cuz thats wut they do in pretty much every decade. Kudos to Gen. Raheel Shareef who still stood out and rejected the evil plan, ofcourse some part of it goes to centcom as well who gave a strict msg to GHQ the night when IK went to meet the COAS.
So these kinda generals will do it again cuz ofcourse they are power hungry. The key problem lies with these so-called politicians and their blind followers who fall for them again and again without seeing wuts written on the wall! Its really ironic cuz I believe PAkistanis are very smart. But on the other side they start trusting these stupid leaders as if thats where their solution lies, but they ignore that thats where actually the "problem"lies!!
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BTW isnt it a real joke of having a democracy in pakistan.
A political party which is having sooo much support in assembly showing its weakness to handle an employee of its own ( army genrals are state employee and are suppose to be under civil govt. )
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Well now after 1 year, its definitely no secret that entire dharna drama, rather topi-drama, was all a inhouse scheme of few generals. London plan, the way qadri moved and IK joined and they started processions from different cities on the same date and joined in Pindi etc. Everything is enough to believe that its a part of script.
Now this is neither the first time, nor last that these men in uniform tried to choke and murder an infant democracy cuz thats wut they do in pretty much every decade. Kudos to Gen. Raheel Shareef who still stood out and rejected the evil plan, ofcourse some part of it goes to centcom as well who gave a strict msg to GHQ the night when IK went to meet the COAS.
So these kinda generals will do it again cuz ofcourse they are power hungry. The key problem lies with these so-called politicians and their blind followers who fall for them again and again without seeing wuts written on the wall! Its really ironic cuz I believe PAkistanis are very smart. But on the other side they start trusting these stupid leaders as if thats where their solution lies, but they ignore that thats where actually the "problem"lies!!
summed up well.
as for our people being stupid. They are not stupid rather they dont have any viable choice. Our voter is not educated enough to think for country . Aik biryani ki plate pur vote mil jata hey. ?? Mostly our voters vote for NA on those grounds which should be basis of local bodies. wat ever shahbaz shareef do against democracy but his voter will vote for him cos voter beleives that only shahbaz will spend budget of whole country to his constituaacya .
Same u saw in NA 246 results. democracy grows by it self if it continues . if we keep disrupting it then we will always have such results but we never had real democracy rather a joke of it.
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The onus is now on Nawaz league to produce these tapes, like imran khan who supposedly had the confession tapes of sethi. I don't know if Nawaz sharif has the tapes or not, but his current expressions would be priceless.
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The onus is now on Nawaz league to produce these tapes, like imran khan who supposedly had the confession tapes of sethi. I don't know if Nawaz sharif has the tapes or not, but his current expressions would be priceless.
NS in his right mind will never produce such tapes not in current circumstances for sure.
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NS in his right mind will never produce such tapes not in current circumstances for sure.
I know and in the absence of any documentary proof we can only consider these allegations as hearsay. I saw a clip of mushahidullah, he has not seen the video himself. I foresee this allegation going the same direction to 35 pentures.
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The onus is now on Nawaz league to produce these tapes, like imran khan who supposedly had the confession tapes of sethi. I don't know if Nawaz sharif has the tapes or not, but his current expressions would be priceless.
but PMLN or nawaz are not stupid like IK...they leaked the story through mushahad and then immediately disowned him plus nawaz demanded an explanation from mushhhad....
so why shd PMLN and Nawaz produce these tapes? they are not owning the story.
see how clever PMLN and nawaz are and how dumb IK and PTI were. yae hotie hain politics shah jee!
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I know and in the absence of any documentary proof we can only consider these allegations as hearsay. I saw a clip of mushahidullah, he has not seen the video himself. I foresee this allegation going the same direction to 35 pentures.
35 punctures story was supported, promoted, encouraged, discussed and published repeatedly by IK 101 times....on the othher hand nawaz has immediately disowned mushhad story.
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but PMLN or nawaz are not stupid like IK...they leaked the story through mushahad and then immediately disowned him plus nawaz demanded an explanation from mushhhad....
so why shd PMLN and Nawaz produce these tapes? they are not owning the story.
see how clever PMLN and nawaz are and how dumb IK and PTI were. yae hotie hain politics shah jee!
Yes they are experienced politicians, anyways we should take this story with a pinch of salt until the proofs are provided.
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This is the typical oukaat of fauji haters in the country or sitting out of the country. When the country celebrates peaceful Independence Day with full gusto and zeal, and unprecedented level of celebration is seen in places like Karachi, Balochistan, Khyber and FATA all because of Pakistan Army's efforts, a PMLN rat comes out to malign the Military on a foreign forum because they simply couldn't see nation thanking the Army.
Mashidullah himself hasn't seen seen or heard the tape, hence NS' immediate disowning of his claim because he knows that an absence of a non-existent tape could result in ISI opening up hundreds of existent tapes to annihilate these politicians if they don't stay in their oukaat. I really hope Pakistan Army and ISI puts their foot down and send these rats a very important reminder. Enough is enough.
If ex Generals were really involved in toppling the government, what's stopping NS to form his usual committees and commission to investigate their role? This is their new strategy, since they cannot bark against Gen Raheel and his men, they are using the whole bashing of retired generals as a proxy to attack Army.
Either Mushaidullah has made a serious blunder without knowing at all or Ganjoo is seriously upset that Gen Raheel did not topple his government, ISI did not interfere with JC, there is peace in the country and Army has taken full responsibility of safeguarding CPEC and have already developed 500 km of 800 km road work in Baluchistan. Either Mushahidullah presented internal PMLN rumour as a fact or Ganjoo simply cannot tolerate the fact that Army is actually working in his government's favour and wants to provoke them into taking an action.
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BTW isnt it a real joke of having a democracy in pakistan.
A political party which is having sooo much support in assembly showing its weakness to handle an employee of its own ( army genrals are state employee and are suppose to be under civil govt. )
A Lion, an Ass, and a Fox were hunting in company, and caught a large quantity of game. The Ass was asked to divide the spoil. This he did very fairly, giving each an equal share.
The Fox was well satisfied, but the Lion flew into a great rage over it, and with one stroke of his huge paw, he added the Ass to the pile of slain.
Then he turned to the Fox.
“You divide it,” he roared angrily.
The Fox wasted no time in talking. He quickly piled all the game into one great heap. From this he took a very small portion for himself, such undesirable bits as the horns and hoofs of a mountain goat, and the end of an ox tail.
The Lion now recovered his good humor entirely.
“Who taught you to divide so fairly?” he asked pleasantly.
“I learned a lesson from the Ass,” replied the Fox, carefully edging away. Moral
Learn from the misfortunes of others.
*Happy is the man who learns from the misfortunes of others
جبکہ یہ بے چارے تو پہلے ہی ڈسے ہوئے ہیں۔
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zaheer ul islam was not ex general when he planned this drama. Dont know wat is the key ingredient of our generals that they keep coming with such dramas . n there are some ppl among us who think that there is no such incident taken place....
This one i think not coming from the COAS rather this ISI cheap. Raheel did a nice job by not taking part in it.