Isa (AS), Quran and his second coming:

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Re: Isa (AS), Quran and his second coming:

@kchughtai

Can anyone briefly explain to me how 4:159 is an evidence for the fact that Jesus(as) is still alive? pls try to be brief.

@kchughtai

Peace Psyah,

You have tried to make a connection that doesn’t exist and I will talk about the connection that could be extracted from these two verses in a moment.
In verse 5:116, practice of shirk among the followers of jesus(as) was in question and whether Jesus(as) preached anything like that or not. His being a true prophet is not being discussed. Whereas in 4:157-159, refutation of accursed death of Jesus(as) is there plus the fact that the common belief among both followers and rejectors of Jesus(as) is founded on a doubt. Where is the connection? I don’t get it.

Now the connection that can be deduced: In 5:117, Jesus(as) said in his response that “I was witness over them …but after Allah did his tawaffee then Allah is watcher over his people”. In 4:159, it is clearly stated that Jesus(as) will be witness over his people on the judgment day for their false beliefs. No mention of him being witness over them in this world again.

Peace kchughtai

Well … 4:159

It states at the end of this verse “he shall be a witness against them”

And there is none from the People of the Scripture but that he will surely believe in Jesus before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be against them a witness.

And you have already agreed that verses 5:116-117 are what Isa (AS) is saying “as witness against them” … so how can you not see the connection between these two verses?

*And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?’” He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.

*I said not to them except what You commanded me - to worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness.

According to hadith Isa (AS) will come and the people who come in to contact with him will realise he is Masih … and they will soon realise the truth about his circumstances and his nature and reality. There is evidence in the hadith that people will embrace Islam or that the regime of the world will be in the hands of those who bear the truth, but there will still be evil in it and there will still be those who have not become believers. That is why when the rapture happens - or the wind that takes away the good souls will leave behind a world in semi-ignorance once again.

Does the verse 4:159 show direct evidence in itself of the idea that Isa (AS) is alive, I’m not sure I can say that, but with respect to hadith and how it fits with other beliefs yes it is a vital component of this.

It is because if we are to take the interpretation that this is a prediction requisite rather than an** obligation** then indeed this has not happened yet - the People of the Book have to date not wholesale accepted the truth about Isa (AS).