Isa (AS) dead or alive. In the light of Quran and Hadith.

[Mr.Popat]

@crankthatskunk

Frozenfire, I am interested in this thread too, if Brother Psyah doesn’t mind me taking part.

Even though I have not read the posts on this thread, but looking at topic, I know exactly what some of the users are talking, their usual standard approach, knowledge obtained from their pocket books. I can petty much pin point from where all the points were coming and what would happen to them if really relevant questions are asked. Question which are not listed in their pocket books

There is a famous verse in the Holy Quran; these posters arguments usually circle around this article.

I have posted partial verse, and translations of three translators. I know which translation one party likes; it is the last one, “cause thee to die”.

We will come to the meanings of the words like “Mutafaki” and “Rafaki” but I will start with a very simple question on this verse.

When this conversation between Isa As and Allah SWT did take place?

I am sure our resident scholars, sources of whose knowledge is well known to me, could easily answer this question. It will be very easy for them to divulge in to the vast amount of information available to them.

**Or can they? **

[3:56] When Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will exalt thee to Myself, and will clear thee from the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ.

Since you provided 3 of the interpretation of the same verse, I think each three of them are acceptable by you. ( unless, you want me to go word by word on the issue of “case thee to die” or the other translation given by you..) Hence, I will be using the 3rd interpretation given by you and have provided you with the full verse.

When this conversation took place ?

If you read verses prior to this verse and a couple of verses after that verse, you will realize that Allah was talking to Jesus (AS) when Jews were giving Him some very hard time. Thus, Allah promised Him 4 promises in that verse.

1. cause you to die
   2)exalt thee to myself
2. free him from the charges
3. given superiority over others.

According to all these 4 promises of Allah given to Jesus (AS), all of which have been fulfilled. Lets start from 2nd point and come back to 1st point later. Allah told Him that He will make him return to him. How? by ‘causing you to die’. He will be freed from the charges that Jews put on him (illegitimate birth) , by approving in Quran that He indeed had a virgin birth, and that His mother was a pious lady. 4th is to give superiority over others.. that indeed is true too.

When all the latter 3 promises were fulfilled by Allah, the first promise must have also been fulfilled.

Keep in mind , in that verse, theres a usage of Mutawafika and wa rafiuka. If Mutawafika according to you means to raise bodily , then the word rafiuka shouldnt have been there. One must then admit that either one of them must mean ‘death’