Peace Mr.Popat
The difference in what you are saying here to what I am saying is that I believe you cannot apply rules of specifics on statements of generality in the Qur'an. Whereas even if you do I believe that your are forcing a definition on the verses that is not there either. I do believe the three stages as you present them are still applicable to Isa (AS) only just the middle stage is prolonged.
Then you use the term "old age" to prove Isa (AS) is aging, again this is not accurately deterministic from a logical point of view so I disagree again with the way you have interpreted the verse. First of all we need to determine what old age actually means. If it means above 50 years old or if it means above 100 years old. Or rather is it a characteristic that affects different people at different ages?
Then on top of that people in Jannah are said to not age, so I believe it is plausible that he (AS) is not aging.
peace psyah,
I hope you do realize whatever you have said thus far in this thread is merely based on merely your assumptions. The dead never return from their otherworldly abode. Once departed, none has ever paid a second visit to begin mixing with the living. Never has God brought back any dwellers of the past. Those who literally await the return of Jesus may continue to do so till eternity. He will never come, nor will the Mullah ever quit his demagogic command over the Muslim world. Left forever at the mercy of the Mullah, who knows no mercy, the masses are duped to wait in vain for the return of Jesusas bearing a cup of elixir in his hand. Islam will continue to suffer year after year, century after century under the despotic rule of the Muslim clergy.
I beg to remind you that when religion is interpreted without rationality, when faith is divorced of reason, all that they give birth to are myths without legitimacy and legends without substance. Mindless trustees of faith succeed only in making a mockery of Divine wisdom.
Let the world of Islam get rid of this fantasy once and for all and let the clerics who nurture it get lost. The death of their age will usher in the age of the revival of Islam.
Truth has been showed to you right from Quran, I take it as my duty to invite you to the truth. You do know that anything you say, you'll be attacked by thousands of questions which you will never have answers for and all you will be doing from your side will be to keep on defending your beliefs based on your assumptions, instead of from Quran , the base of the debate that we made.
Lets settle this first.. according to you, when one is NOT on earth, s/he is NOT aging. That is what you meant right? Jesus AS was , is , and never can be an exception. He AS was a true messenger of Allah just like Abraham , Noah, Lut ( May Allah be pleased with them all ) were. I have provided you several times the verses which indicates His AS death, yet you on other hand give priority to your Mullah's interpretation , instead of neutrally thinking about it yourself.
Then on top of that people in Jannah are said to not age, so I believe it is plausible that he (AS) is not aging.
You believe? you do realize spirit and body are two different things. Dead people DO NOT accompany the alives. Either the heaven is a physical place (in that case , each and every individual who dies must be raised up alive bodily), OR that its a spiritual place, where our souls go after an appointed time ( in which case, Jesus AS could not be alive bodily in a spirtualistic place ). Either spiritual, or physical, make up your mind bro.
PS: i've said it before, and ill say it again, i come here to learn and to seek truth. If i happen to be convinced by you that He AS is still alive in the heavens and if this belief doesnt contradict with other verses from Quran, i hereby announce that i will discard this belief and will believe him being alive. I urge you to do the same. I have provided you several verses from Quran, all you did is to give assumptions.. i.e: he might be sleeping, he is not bound to earth rules, time doesnt play a role, He AS is not aging.. where are you getting these senseless beliefs bro? i seriously am very amazed.
PS2: should i wait for your answers as you asked me to wait for a week and its been a week already.. ( the questions i raised earlier to which you said you needed time to write ). Thanks.