Is wife beating against the quran?

[Mughal1]

Re: Is wife beating against the quran?

@aqeel123

4: 34

Shakir : Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

Pickthal : Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

Yusufali [4:34] Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

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To the orginal poster, Mughal … what is the traslation of وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ according to u. From ur orginal post it seems like u totally took the world out Or i wasnt able to understand ur post properly.

Thank you dear aqeel, my point is that wife beating is wrong translation because it does not gow with the flow of text of the quran. I explained, how the context the quran makes better sense eg there are two levels of separation a)only man and wife only know that they are angry with each other b)There families also become aware that they are separated from each other. So translation becomes advise them or separate them in the beds or separate them in the house as well but if they accept the advise then do not go betond that. It is like taking steps 1st, 2nd , 3rd & 4th. Going beyond is, the wife made a mistake and you go straight for divorce instead of going for ways of reconciliation.

Beat is wrong also that if a wife is really not happy with you then she will do what she wants to do behind your back. This advise is only for a wife who is not this kind of wife but a god loving wife who herself know wrong and right and just for some reason made a mistake. A one off mistake.

The other thing to remeber is that women have similar rights against men as well. It is balance of power that man and wife keep each other in check in the name of god and humanity. This is not about one side beating the hell out of the other. You will not have the family atmosphere that way. This works like government and opposition but for tyhe good of the family.

I am not insisting that my translation is correct but that people who translate word daraboo in to beat are definitely wrong because it makes no sense in islamic concept or quranic context. My other point mis thgat this word has many different meanings so why insist on using it in sense that makes no sense? Verse 35 explains verse 34 very clearly. Does it make sense that some one tells you go beat up your wife first and then get others involved for reconciliation?

As for past scholars, there explanantions are only good if they are consistent with what islam stands for and not because they are scholars of islam. Anyone can make mistakes. Even prophets are not free of making odd mistake, look at at story of adam in the quran. Allah says, he just made a mistake but it was not wilful disobedience on part of adam.

So making mistake is not a problem but holding on to mistake is, once right way becomes is made clear to a person.

Therefore dear aqeel I cannot accept the wrong translation of the quran if it is possible to show that there better translation is possible. In islam wife is not slave of her husband but an equal partner for sharing life in a best possible way and raising a great family of which the tribe and wider society should be proud and allah and rasool with be pleased, which is obviously good for their hereafter as well.

If you have time please read again what I am saying you may understand what I am trying to put arcoss otherwise may allah forgive all of us for our mistakes.

my regards and best wishes.