Is this true?

[teggy]

Re: Is this true?

@vroom

Those references should have corrected you somewhat, I hope the reason why they did not correct you is not stubborn-ness. You are obviously displaying influence from a well known recent movement

Lets have a look at some subjects which you should have been corrected on:

On the topic of where help should be sought from - It should be sought from Allah Ta’ala, Allah Subhanahu is the Provider of Help. We can attain this help in one of the two permissible ways -1. Directly asking Allah Ta’ala, and 2. asking through an intermediary [living or passed on]

1. Now if you look back, you are saying help should be sought directly from Allah Ta’ala, and the Sahaba are turning to Hair Mubaraks, and Garment Sharifs. Clear difference there. A difference which should correct you on this point, after reflection

2. A man came to RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam for the cure of his sight. The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam gave him a way for him to gain this help from Allah Ta’ala, and it included taking help from The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam [from afar I might add]. This should correct you

3. You will have been influenced to the notion that dua is worship, and that this means all calling is worship. The ayat of The Quran should have corrected you

Also at the middle of all your views on these subjects is death. Your view of death is too simplistic. It seems this is playing the pivotal role in your understanding. This needs further discussion, do not assume this, what seems like a, pillar of your belief is on firm ground till you have investigated. Remember our views should not merely be influenced by what seems the zahiri reality but we take input from islam for our beliefs. With the input of Islam your views on death will be less simplistic.

1. Rasool Allah (s.a.w.) was a prophet, and prophets have miracles. Awliya Allah may have karamah during their lifetime. Sahaba (r.a.) went to seek out Rasool Allah (s.a.w.) because he was a Prophet, and prophets receive revelation, and do not do anything which contradicts commands of Allah, and thus are infallible. That guaratee is not reserved for others; though there are pious men and women in every ummah and Allah blesses their actions. Here’s a hadith to the fact:

Abu Hurairah narrated that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said,
“When a man dies, his good deeds come to an end except three: ongoing charity, beneficial knowledge, and righteous offspring who will pray for him.” (Muslim)

2. Again, refer to number 1.

3. I seek refuge with Allah from any wrong influences. Quran says to fear Allah, worship Allah alone, obey the Messenger (pbuh) and Allah (s.w.t.), and do righteous deeds, seek forgiveness for wrongdoings, and other beneficial commands for us all. Quran does say to ask those who know if you don’t know in terms of knowledge. Please help me understand which ayah of Quran sanctions going to the deceased and asking for Help.

My view on death is that once you die, your deeds come to an end except those that Rasool Allah (s.a.w) mentioned which carry on benefitting you after your death. It is true, my view may be simplistic, it is perhaps because Islam is a simple religion and the path to Allah is direct and straight forward without pitstops or the need to attend any mazaar as an article of faith to achieve success. May Allah guide me, and correct my incorrect understandings, surely I could use a lot more learning.

The simple fact of the matter from my limited understanding is that the best place to seek help is from Salah and patience, and we have been informed by Rasool Allah (s.a.w.) that supplication made during sujood may most likely be accepted. Can there be any better form of seeking than this, to be able to ask Allah directly? Again, that’s just my understanding and surely there’s room for improvement on a lot of what I feel I have come to learn. Duaa is a powerful thing, and the living can do duaa as evident when Rasool Allah (s.a.w) asked Umar (r.a.) to make duaa for him (s.a.w.) upon performing Umrah after hijrah.

I don’t wish to keep going in circular debate because you have your understanding, and I have mine. May Allah guide us all, and give us the taufeeq to unite upon what is common rather than divide upon what is different.