Is the Pakistani public aware of the fact that

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but some men are animals. like not 99% but the rest. so i think we should meet halfway and agree that the girl has to take some of the blame for not being careful with who she marries as well...

some people can just never let go :) and fine agreed!

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lol.. no, just picking on you for being desensitized to one issue while not to another.

and it is not the womans fault.

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oh great for a sec you made me believe that .01% could be the womens fault, and now you back out!

But one thing is true it take two to make a mistake. For the most part, i think the problem is that women are not taught to be strong. And thats not the womans fault but instead everyone in her life, and those who came before. You have to be smart in what gets passed down in generations, and something like this should have never been passed down.

As my mom always said, all she ever learned at home and from her mothers friends was the key to a good marriage is thinking of your husband as close but not god, clean, cook, and know how to sow and from those you'll have a perfect marriage. And my mom always says what the hell happend to sex! loll its funny when she says it.

BUt my point is that we need to watch what gets passed down, because its that history and culture which can sometimes ruin a society.

Actually that is NOT **the case. The X chromosome is always from the mother. The father either contributes another X (XX = a girl) or a Y (XY = a boy). There is no "Mom's X & Dad's Y battling it out" going on. The dad has both an X & a Y. And if there is any battling going on; it's between the **DAD's X and the DAD's Y.

*The determination of the gender is COMPLETELY up to the father. *

And unless people are willing to take some really unromantic steps, there is not way for **EITHER **party to predetermine the gender of the child.

Not all guys are like that. There are some guys who are not educated and accept whatever Allah gives them without blaming the wife. There are some who ARE educated.....but chose to adhere to Jahil mentality. And then there are some who are Jahil in the literal and mental sense through and through.........no amount of education, Quran, or contemplation of moral values and ethics will make a difference on them.

And to such men, it's more convenient for them to blame the woman.........then to question their own role in the gender of the child. Perhaps they think it makes them appear *"less manly" **to even contemplate the possibility that their bodies are not producing enough *"y" **sperms to yield a boy.

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rv, you are no different from these pind de jahils saying stuff like that. men produce equal number of x and y sperms. :smack:

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It's not a matter of enough X or Y sperm. It's basically a gamble. Even if there were 60% Y sperm, there is still a chance that the egg would be fertilized by an X sperm.

But RedVelvet, I totally agree with where you're going with this. It is easier for many men to blame the women rather than accept the responsibility that the determination of gender is made by them.

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Ziya, the determination of the gender is not made by the man even though he possesses both the chromosomes. It's a matter of chance as to which one gets fertilized. But yes, it isn't the woman's fault, and neither is it the man's.

Some things are left to God almighty such as birth and death...

Okay, so I learned something new. There is a difference between not knowing something…and persisting in erroneous beliefs (blaming the wife for being solely responsible for the gender of the child). Thank you for the clarification. However, it could have been done in a less harsh way. “Jahil” can refer to conduct as well.

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RV, I know I should come in but I think Queer’s been joking in the above posts and actually been blaming the men, but in a silly roundabout fashion. :smack:

Actually Niki, I looked it up on the Internet a few minutes ago. And i’ve read that the men produce roughly equal numbers of x and y sperm. I’ve read different theories on the x and y sperms such as the x sperm lives longer whereas the y sperm swims faster…and an acidic female environment is more likely to attract an x sperm whereas an alkaline environment is more conducive to a y sperm (this pertains to female diet). There are various theories on how to increase your chances of having either a male or female child.

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yes yes, that is a fact, but all the stuff about being the woman's fault in some sneaky sorta way was just a joke, right Queer :ASA:???

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The average person back home would not know this. I don't even think most educated would unless they had an active interest in general knowledge/science or the reproduction system.

On the other hand, those that may know may turn a blind eye to it because it does not fit in with their own ideals and a denial that oh-my-gosh-the-man-has-a-part-to-play-in-all-this.

Ingrained cultural thinking will take precedent over science etc in patriarchal societies. Knowledge and better access can help but until the ingrained cultural thinking is eradicated, there is not much hope.

It is such a shame that people cannot distinguish between Islam and culture in so many instances. Shocking. Picking and choosing religion when it suits the individual and skipping it when it does not.

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^^Go to sleep double D

You should too. I have turned into an insomniac:hinna:

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im watching a rerun of kerry katonas show on mtv. Shes a wierdO

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Niksik - as I said in both the post above yours, and in my 1st post - it is chance, hence a gamble and neither party can predetermine the gender.

Biologically speaking however, the determination of the gender is from the father's contribution.

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I doubt it has to do with literacy...because educated and uneducated take part in this stupid theory.

Its no one's fault...God's will...leave it to Him.

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I would just onething its upto Allah what he suggest for you, is better for you... but its true fact alots of gurls has been murdered just because of giving birth to a baby girl