Actually we thought this was an online forum to express opinion as per topic under discussion and increase traffic,not an online newspaper where you read all the crap and move on without leaving your views on the news. I never knew we needed approval of certain members before posting in a thread beyond a point THEY consider the topic has served its purpose :halo:
^ I find it disturbing that some of the mature people on this forum including the management act like kindergarten children and gang up on people who don’t agree to their perspectives religious or non-religious. The sarcastic tone in their posts and no care attitude towards members leaves a very bad impression on other posters.
I am not a very active poster here and I know my opinion does not count/matter to any one but some times this place seems like a martial law run state where if you are not part of the IN crowd you should just shut up.
I could careless about relating Thanksgiving to religion. All I know is, I love turkey and Thanksgiving seems to be the right occasion to have some :halo:
I am assuming that being not an active poster here,you’ve missed many rude. posts directed to your so called “IN CROWD” and. “mature” people and hence your opinion is based on some selective posts you came across. I am not sure if you’re expecting from members of management to ignore any remarks directly to them for expressing their opinion while others are free to say anything and everything?
There is no “gangster/in-crowd/mafia” here unlike you said. New members or old, everyone’s views are respected and valued. There is a stir when religion is brought into discussions because everyone has his/her own views regarding religion. So one should avoid judging others and calling them wrong indirectly/directly on basis of their understanding on a certain issue.
Proto, you have then GUN [in your avi], i don’t dare to disagree with you! i have to be even more careful because my body is like a balloon filled with tea…one bullet will take care of me…shriveled baloon in a corner with tea all over the floor!!!
Chill guys! OP never said anything in the thread regarding it’s haraam or who are celebrating it are kaafirs rather he/she expressed his own views but there are some other guys who ignited the issue and took it to the whole new direction.
Afayz! I don’t usually get into such debates because I believe let the people do whatever they wanna do because everybody has to answer for it’s own actions because this is the time for which my Imam says " ab woh waqt hai k darwazay k peeche chup k apna imaan bachao", so I rather care to save myself and my family then to correct others. I totally agree with you but still try to prevent any arguments.
Bringing up the unislamicness of thanksgiving in a menu/recipe thread was uncalled for, in bad taste and just a lack of common courtesy to the notion, live and let live. There have been umpteen threads on birthday/aqeeqa/bridal/baby shower menus and decorations and event planning and I don’t remember recalling even a single time anyone declaring they don’t follow these events due to their personal religious preferences.
I personally am against the idea of thanksgiving/halloween/milaad/khatam/aqeeqa parties/ameen or bismillah parties and huge birthday or anniversary celebrations as well. I deliberately keep away from discussing such issues but that’s my own choice and perspective. I wont ever bump a thread where people are merrily discussing these events just to tell I donot celebrate these events for religious reasons because not celebrating them is MY understanding of them and no one needs to know or be insisted to follow what I do, unless I am asked about my personal opinion on it directly.
…Therefore it was the job for mods to remove the off topic post or issue a formal reminder instead of coming up even more ridiculous arguments and veiled insults to derail its own thread.
^ and you think mods will not get ‘why was my post removed’/ ‘mods are biased’ and similar complaints and whines after removal of off-topic posts ? Despite being an off topic post, we acknowledged that it was certainly a topic that needed to be discussed separately from a thread that was discussing recipes and menu. To sort out the relevant posts and make a separate thread,we needed to close the thread for an hour or so and there has been hoo-haa on closing the thread as well without realizing why was it closed. We cannot please every body..and koi kisi haal may khush nahin
No no…it wasn’t directed at anyone particularly…just happened to be right after your post.
We started out with the same idea RV…we had a break in the week and everyone was off so we just relaxed at home. Now, that most of us are married and living separately…its an excuse to get together and make our parents happy. The main idea is simply for our families to be together. I still don’t know how to cook a turkey…we do the traditional T-Day spread because its so damn good. We don’t carve the turkey, sit around the table, hold hands or bow our heads in prayer. Its like any dawat except…the menu is according to the season we’re in.
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I do apologize…I feel like my thread really put you on the spot and that was not my intention. I think what a lot of us are trying to say is that…Thanksgiving is simply time off. Its an excuse for my family to make it into a fun thing for us. How many times a year do we have a block of days off like that? My weekend is spent getting ready for the upcoming week. Laundry, grocery shopping, bills, cleaning up, etc etc etc. I squeeze in my friends during the week and quality time with my parents is our time grocery shopping. Life gets busy. So when a chance comes around to do something fun with your loved ones…yeah…we take it. We grab it and run with it. And we don’t consider it a bad thing…having dinner on Thanksgiving does not stop us from praying, fasting, etc.
This has nothing to do with religion. It has zero to do with our beliefs. It has NO impact on our kids spiritual health.
At this point all i wanna know who Abemuf is who never posts but does keep liking the posts in this thread just like it did in “pakistani in west” thread
Hi, my name is MM, and, yes, my family does celebrate Thanksgiving. :hinna:
We all work/ go to school and don’t get to spend much time together, so when we all have a day off together, we do enjoy seeing each other’s shakals at the dinner table together.
We go around the table and give thanks for the blessings we have. No, we don’t think Christopher Columbus, or the native Americans.. We do say “Alhamdulillah”… so that makes it halal, right?
We do have turkey, stuffing, cranberry sauce, casserole, biscuits, gravey, mashed potatoes, etc etc.
Followed by dinner, if the Adhaan’s gone off, we do pray Isha together.