Its just a pathetic comment by this person. Funny thing, she is trying to back off now.
Back off of what?????????? Elaborate on that, if you can. I had to write something and then further quote myself to drive the point home. Meaning, I have to repeat myself to get the point across to you.
The only thing this proves is that you're ill-equipped to argue and therefore at a disadvantage.
Re: Is South Asian unity between Pakistanis and Indians possible?
Seeing any sort of unity between India and Pakistan is possible, anything is possible. But that requires progressive thinking, taking off horse blinds and considering the future of your fellow MUSLIMS...something people are blatantly and shamelessly refusing to think about.
Do you think that south asian unity or desi unity between Pakistanis and non-muslim indians is ever possible?
I have noticed that the problem with pakistanis living in USA and Canada is that they think of the hindus and sikhs as their south asian desi siblings. They want to be buddy buddy with the hindus and that disgusts me.
I think there can never ever be any unity between pakistanis and non-muslim indians and if such unity was possible then there was no need for Partition in 1947. As pakistanis, we should try to unite with the rest of the muslim ummah. We need unity between sunnis and shia; and unity between pakistanis, persians, arabs and african muslims
For example, i am a punjabi but as a muslim i feel i have more in common with a muslim brother from somalia or albania than a punjabi sikh
The reason for Pakistan existence is hindu's keena against muslims though Indians have more muslims then Pakistanis. Now the question is not "pakistan and India should unite" the question is will India stand aside let Kashmeer free and make it a complete Kashmeer instead of Jamu and Azaad. Then will they have any objection against the fact if Kashmeer wishes to unite with Pakistan.
Indians should learn to be friends in their wise country where you see brahman never eating a veg meal made by muslim but sleeping with a muslim girl who happens to be his slave.
After soo many wars India stil havent figured out why we are still fighting.
When India decides to bring true justice to Pakistan stand aside with them and defend religion, defend country and do not keep each other as a target.
Then maybe Pakistan will come to think India as their alliance and will happily unite.
About partition in 1947 14th of August. Read books of History bro. You'll know that Majority of Muslims were struggling, and were afread of hindues. You would not imagine a scene of you being in the train, a platoon of sikh would run across and enter out of no where and slashes you.
When you are sleeping they set your house on fire.
Hindues raped our sisters, slaughtered our brothers, hung our mothers and fathers. There were times when the rivers of Indo-Pak were red as blood and millions of bodies floating over it.
When the entire hope of friendship was lost? Mohammad Ali Jinnah and few members of Muslim league decided that there should be a part for a muslim to live with no fear but dignity, form a decipline, forge unity with each other, and life at pease.
So when Indian Hindues think back put their selves in our shoes and feel what we've felt when we were part of India. When they Knee down upon us and beg us for forgiveness? Then we'll consider them to unite with us.
For now whoever thinks Pakistan was a political experiment and India and Pakistan should re-unite The same India who almost duldge Pakistan in to War last year? Is more then welcome to go and join indians and live in India.
Back off of what?????????? Elaborate on that, if you can. I had to write something and then further quote myself to drive the point home. Meaning, I have to repeat myself to get the point across to you.
The only thing this proves is that you're ill-equipped to argue and therefore at a disadvantage.
Did you even read what you wrote and what and why I wrote?
The friendship as you suggested was up to muslims and was their responsibility.
So if does not happen then they would be blamed.
A simple english did not need to be explained to you but I guess I decided to do this 'difficult' task afterall.
Re: Is South Asian unity between Pakistanis and Indians possible?
^ Ohmygod...you are hopeless.
Its not about blame anymore...the time to place blame on anyone's shoulders is loooong gone.
The time to stick your head in the sand is long gone too.
Did you even read what you wrote and what and why I wrote?
The friendship as you suggested was up to muslims and was their responsibility. So if does not happen then they would be blamed.
A simple english did not need to be explained to you but I guess I decided to do this 'difficult' task afterall.
Correction. If that doesnt happen? Hindues are to be blamed, not muslims. Remember India have more populations of Muslims, but the polititions are hindues who just dont budge against anything they hate anything related to peace. They took the one wise land from Pakistan known as Kashmeer and they are not even making it an independent country and merging it to Azaad kashmeer, but making things more complicated by not leave that place alone.
So if you think Muslims are to be blamed? You are soo wrong.
Correction. If that doesnt happen? Hindues are to be blamed, not muslims. Remember India have more populations of Muslims, but the polititions are hindues who just dont budge against anything they hate anything related to peace. They took the one wise land from Pakistan known as Kashmeer and they are not even making it an independent country and merging it to Azaad kashmeer, but making things more complicated by not leave that place alone.
So if you think Muslims are to be blamed? You are soo wrong.
Yes. You R right. U got me wrong. I was merely interpreting Bonbonnier's post # 49 conclusion. Who said:
"Regardless, I believe its our responsibility towards Muslims all over the world - including (ohmygod) India - to initiate friendship and improve relations with non-Muslims."
Read previous posts please.
Re: Is South Asian unity between Pakistanis and Indians possible?
^ Correction...you were merely TRYING to interpret my posts but failed miserably.
Yes. You R right. U got me wrong. I was merely interpreting Bonbonnier's post # 49 conclusion. Who said:
"Regardless, I believe its our responsibility towards Muslims all over the world - including (ohmygod) India - to initiate friendship and improve relations with non-Muslims."
Read previous posts please.
I have read all 3 pages. Thats why I said that you were wrong!.
Adeeba Sis, its one of ur hindu brother(Like it or not) from India. Im shocked by reading ur quoted post. Plz share with members on this thread h ow it is for U muslims in India. Pakitanis cant experience it for obvious reasons, but ur words can make them feel experiencing it already. So come ahead and tell us how U suffer by being an Indian in India.
I dare U to speak out and make things clear.
And brother hellraiser. Cant U see that how ur two nation theory has boomranged? Imagine of muslims living together, 450 millions of them in a single country. Imagine.
And to remind U brother, still 150 million muslims are living in India, will all equal rights. They are governed by muslim personal laws. Something unique about the democracy of India.
I know how U are going to respond to this post. But I m ready to cross that bridge too. Let all ur doubts be cleared. Long live hindu Muslim unity of India.
Re: Is South Asian unity between Pakistanis and Indians possible?
So why don’t all the Pakistani Muslims on this board who hate non-Muslims so passionately continue to live in the West then? 
And then the victimizing retards complain about how they are hated in the West, when a lot of it is their own fault.
Re: Is South Asian unity between Pakistanis and Indians possible?
^ Great stuff...both of you.
Cant U see that how ur two nation theory has boomranged?
^ Great stuff...both of you.
You find his statement 'great stuff'?! You do know that he is calling the creation of Pakistan a 'boomerang' theory? is that the premise of your entire argument on South Asian unity? sad. i was in total agreement with your statement here
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Seeing any sort of unity between India and Pakistan is possible, anything is possible. But that requires progressive thinking, taking off horse blinds and considering the future of your fellow MUSLIMS...something people are blatantly and shamelessly refusing to think about.
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but when Raj above gave proof of his regressive thinking, you actually agreed with him, i am surprised. why not argue this great point of yours with him? being an Indian, isn't it his responsibilty too to be part of this united future, to respect and accept our existence by now? or does this responsibility falls solely on Pakistanis? now you have first-hand proof of one of the main reasons for the animosity that exists, Pakistanis are sick and tired of constantly being put on the defensive where partition was concerned, its done and its been over 60 yrs, lets get out of the past and then talk about 'progressive thinking'.
So, if I say we have a responsibility towards Muslims all over the world...that automatically means I love Indians? By the way.........what do you have against Indian Muslims? Its so annoying to see people being so nationalistic when their priority SHOULD be Muslims first. It doesnt matter what country they're from...Muslims first.
But you dont seem to get that.......must be an immature teenage thing........
So now you are trying to say you dont love indians???
And when did i say i hate indian muslims? Go get a life! All i said is those same muslims whom u want to be friends with or whom you love...hates us! They want our nation to be declared a terrorist state? Looks like you dont give a damn about Pakistan do ya? I dont care whether are muslims, hinuds, christian etc...They hate us and there is no reason why we should have love for those who hate our nation.......
Go and check out the news and see how much indians love us, rather than watching bolly wood crap!
And what Nationalistic are you talking about? If muslims live in india does that mean
What connection would you expect Indian Muslims to have to Pakistan?
Where did i say i expect Indians muslims have connection to Pakistan?
Seeing any sort of unity between India and Pakistan is possible, anything is possible. But that requires progressive thinking, taking off horse blinds and considering the future of your fellow MUSLIMS...something people are blatantly and shamelessly refusing to think about.
Lets do one thing, why not jus merge back into India and forget about all the sacrifices that our people made to protect us?
After all our Dear Muslims lives in India right? We should love them regardless of whether they care about us or not....Lets Jus merge back into India and we should have you as our leader...what do u say?
You find his statement 'great stuff'?! You do know that he is calling the creation of Pakistan a 'boomerang' theory? is that the premise of your entire argument on South Asian unity? sad. i was in total agreement with your statement here
but when Raj above gave proof of his regressive thinking, you actually agreed with him, i am surprised. why not argue this great point of yours with him? being an Indian, isn't it his responsibilty too to be part of this united future, to respect and accept our existence by now? or does this responsibility falls solely on Pakistanis? now you have first-hand proof of one of the main reasons for the animosity that exists, Pakistanis are sick and tired of constantly being put on the defensive where partition was concerned, its done and its been over 60 yrs, lets get out of the past and then talk about 'progressive thinking'.
My point is simply that the two nations can co-exist as neighbors Wondergurl and actually help each other.
So now you are trying to say you dont love indians???
And when did i say i hate indian muslims? Go get a life! All i said is those same muslims whom u want to be friends with or whom you love...hates us! They want our nation to be declared a terrorist state? Looks like you dont give a damn about Pakistan do ya? I dont care whether are muslims, hinuds, christian etc...They hate us and there is no reason why we should have love for those who hate our nation.......
Go and check out the news and see how much indians love us, rather than watching bolly wood crap!
And what Nationalistic are you talking about? If muslims live in india does that mean
WOOOOOOOOOW! Shameless and proud of it, hunh? Besharmi ki hadd hoti hai. You sound like
Here is my stance on this whole air-headed issue of yours::: I love ALL Muslims, regardless of who the heck their daddy was. Indian, Nepali, Pakistani, Indonesian, whatever.
BEING A MUSLIM COMES BEFORE BEING PAKISTANI.
When you're about to die, being a Pakistani wont help you ladies and gentlemen. But being a Muslim MIGHT - and thats a BIG might at the rate we're going. We need to get our priorities straight. Try singing the quami tarana on your death bed people, it wont help. But the kalma might.
Nationalism like yours only ends up dividing Muslims even further, like it hasnt already. There are Indian Muslims on this forum, do you realize that or no?????????? After hearing your nonsense, do you think they would even want to look in your direction???????
Pakistan was not made to make fashion statements, to take off their clothes so they can compete with non-Muslims, to have gay people openly proclaim their homosexuality or to have loud-mouths like you give Pakistan a bad name. It was made for MUSLIMS. Before anything else, it is a Muslim country with a responsibility towards Muslims. Thats it. The WHOLE idea behind Pakistan was Islam. But sadly, its been lost.
Adeeba Sis, its one of ur hindu brother(Like it or not) from India. Im shocked by reading ur quoted post. Plz share with members on this thread h ow it is for U muslims in India. Pakitanis cant experience it for obvious reasons, but ur words can make them feel experiencing it already. So come ahead and tell us how U suffer by being an Indian in India.
*Adeeba, you should try and elaborate for us so we know what you meant. Its important as most of us here are either living in Pak or abroad...not in India. *
I dare U to speak out and make things clear.
And brother hellraiser. Cant U see that how ur two nation theory has boomranged? Imagine of muslims living together, 450 millions of them in a single country. Imagine.
*This is not the part I agreed with. *
And to remind U brother, still 150 million muslims are living in India, will all equal rights. They are governed by muslim personal laws. Something unique about the democracy of India.
*This is. *
I know how U are going to respond to this post. But I m ready to cross that bridge too. Let all ur doubts be cleared. Long live hindu Muslim unity of India.
*From what I see, he is saying long live Hindus and Muslims, united in India. What is wrong with that? We wont accept Indian Muslims, where do you want them to go? Do you see the predicament of Muslims? Na idhar ke, na udhar ke. That is their life. *
You find his statement 'great stuff'?! You do know that he is calling the creation of Pakistan a 'boomerang' theory? is that the premise of your entire argument on South Asian unity? sad. i was in total agreement with your statement here.
but when Raj above gave proof of his regressive thinking, you actually agreed with him, i am surprised. why not argue this great point of yours with him? being an Indian, isn't it his responsibilty too to be part of this united future, to respect and accept our existence by now? or does this responsibility falls solely on Pakistanis? now you have first-hand proof of one of the main reasons for the animosity that exists, Pakistanis are sick and tired of constantly being put on the defensive where partition was concerned, its done and its been over 60 yrs, lets get out of the past and then talk about 'progressive thinking'.
His responsibility as a global citizen and Indian is definitely to accept/respect our existence and help work towards a united future. That is a fact!
Tell me if you agree with the bolded part Wondergurl.
Lets do one thing, why not jus merge back into India and forget about all the sacrifices that our people made to protect us?
After all our Dear Muslims lives in India right? We should love them regardless of whether they care about us or not....Lets Jus merge back into India and we should have you as our leader...what do u say?
I dont mind being appointed the leader at all, such an honor! Thank you.
Shaz, what you're failing to see is that those sacrifices were not made for a certain group of people that qualified as Pakistanis....it was made for Muslims. And your views disrespect those sacrifices.
I dont think you realize what you're saying.