What impact can the nationalists have in the next elections?
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I hope they don have any role wat so ever in sindh,theyr the separatists !
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Well nationalists don't necessarily mean separatists. This was a term coined by our 'spin doctors'. ANP used to be separatists once and now they are ruling KP. We should engage Pakistanis no matter what their thinking is. When the nationalists get power they won't be different to others who have ruled previously, but they could be better at least for their own people.
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Baaten karwalo sab se 
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highly unlikely. Its the lack of education and awareness amongst rural sindh that they cannot think beyond Bhutto. Unfortunate, but true.
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As long as they operate peacefully, they should be allowed to have a political agenda and work for that. But I doubt if they will ever be able to lure urban and educated class of Sindh.
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Urban class will mostly be PPP, MQM and ANP for the unforeseeable future. PTI will make some inroads too, especially with the help of disenchanted, pashtuns and burgers from DHA etc.
PPP's strength is rural Sindh, and if they do damage them there that would be lethal for them.
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PPP's strength is rural Sindh, and if they do damage them there that would be lethal for them.
I was wondering if there is any way PPP can damage their rural Sindh stronghold?
Sometimes I feel that Bhuttoism is so deeply entrenched in rural Sindh that even if PPP campaigns against its own self, it will still end up as a winner.
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hahahahha. Quote of the month!!
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I think nationalists will perform better against PPP than they did in 2008. They might win a few seats here and there. I think PML-N will also make alliance with them or perhaps it already has made alliance with some of them. But I don't think they stand a chance of emerging as a major political force against PPP/MQM.
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I hope they don have any role wat so ever in sindh,theyr the separatists !
I expect to be bombarded with 'labels' for saying this but why is separation considered so bad? If some people don't want to live with you, why not let them go? Just like when we thought it wasn't good to live with India, we separated. Not that I support separation of Sindhis/balochs etc but I just wish 'separation' as a concept wasn't thought of something as evil as it currently is. In my opinion, 'people' are more important than 'states'. States should be combined/separated keeping in view the wishes of its people but people shouldn't be subjected to live under a state against their wishes.
Perhaps its not realistic considering the geo politics of the world but just my thoughts.
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100% true! These same people champion the freedom of Palestininians and Kashmiris bt the reality is that more than half of Balochi people would vote for total freedom if there was a free and fair referendum there.
Back to the subject of Sindhi nationalists and the PPP - people deride the PPP but it has kept Sindh as a part of Pakistan. Without them the Sindhi nationalism would be so much stronger.
I expect to be bombarded with 'labels' for saying this but why is separation considered so bad? If some people don't want to live with you, why not let them go? Just like when we thought it wasn't good to live with India, we separated. Not that I support separation of Sindhis/balochs etc but I just wish 'separation' as a concept wasn't thought of something as evil as it currently is. In my opinion, 'people' are more important than 'states'. States should be combined/separated keeping in view the wishes of its people but people shouldn't be subjected to live under a state against their wishes. Perhaps its not realistic considering the geo politics of the world but just my thoughts.
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I expect to be bombarded with 'labels' for saying this but why is separation considered so bad? If some people don't want to live with you, why not let them go? Just like when we thought it wasn't good to live with India, we separated. Not that I support separation of Sindhis/balochs etc but I just wish 'separation' as a concept wasn't thought of something as evil as it currently is. In my opinion, 'people' are more important than 'states'. States should be combined/separated keeping in view the wishes of its people but people shouldn't be subjected to live under a state against their wishes. Perhaps its not realistic considering the geo politics of the world but just my thoughts.
I dont believe that the Sindhi nationalists are separatists, it not a crime to talk about the rights of their people. Unfortunately we have got an 'institute' which considers its responsibility to issue certificates of patriotism to every one and that needs to stop. If the nationalists get votes regardless of whether they are Seraiki, Sindhis, Baloch or Pashtuns they should be allowed to govern. The mainstream parties have not been able to deliver (if they had the nationalists' cause would have died long ago), the nationalists might!
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Sindh is not changing but definitely politics is. Alliance of PPP with MQM require this change. PPP has to surrender some of its ego, that they are the in majority in Sindh, hence right to rule Sindh. Personally I never liked MQM because of its ethnic and killing politics, but I think Zardari has done a good frame work during past four years to mitigate the apprehensions of Urdu speaking people living in urban Sindh. What ZAB and BB could not do it, Zardari did it. I hope that this alliance will ultimately be beneficial for all the people living whether urban or in rural areas.
As regard nationalists, I agree with some one here who said that separation movement might have accelerated had PPP not present in Sindh. These nationalists would have created exactly the situation what it was created in former East Pakistan and presently Baluchistan. Again credit goes to PPP for attracting masses on one platform called PAKISTAN.
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highly unlikely. Its the lack of education and awareness amongst rural sindh that they cannot think beyond Bhutto. Unfortunate, but true.
People love him who sacrifices for them .
Do you think that they should think of Ayoub ,Yahya ,ZIa or Mush.
On the other hand you think about N$ ,Imran or people like them ,looting them like Thugs .
They have no options .
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*People love him who sacrifices for them *.
Do you think that they should think of Ayoub ,Yahya ,ZIa or Mush.
On the other hand you think about N$ ,Imran or people like them ,looting them like Thugs .
They have no options .
People don't love him because he was killed "for them", people loved him because he shouted "roti kapra aur makan" which is weakness for any person specially poor, he nationalized industries and stuffed them with jiyalas (which they think of as "providing jobs"), otherwise he could've called same people as "khanzeer ki aulad" instead of calling the now Bengladeshis with that name.
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People don't love him because he was killed "for them", people loved him because he shouted "roti kapra aur makan" which is weakness for any person specially poor, he nationalized industries and stuffed them with jiyalas (which they think of as "providing jobs"), otherwise he could've called same people as "khanzeer ki aulad" instead of calling the now Bengladeshis with that name.
Ohhh dear . You need a glass of cold water
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^ so why don't you go ahead and explain what "sacrifices" Bhutto did for awaam?
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